So the chairs and luggage retained enough structural integrity to make a massive perfect hole, but the engines and wings dissolved into literally nothing?
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I'm not willing to concede that the ruling class of this country was able to successfully carry out a false flag terrorist attack on their own important buildings (symbolic of American empire, full of US government stuff), as a pretense for starting new wars. I mean maybe, but it just feels pointless
I don't know how I'm supposed to respond to this. No evidence, no study, just vibing it out.
WRT to RW critics, my points isn't that right wingers are good critics of the US, but that shying away from a subject because people you don't like look into it means you're going to be shut out of just about anything of importance. The belief that we live in a class society with a ruling class that exploits an underclass is a wacky conspiracy theory to most people!
A lot of this conspiracy stuff just distracts from how awful the ruling class of this country is,
How?
Michael Parenti - Conspiracy and Class Power
JFK and the Gangster Nature of the State
even though the people who repeat the 9/11 theories often seem to be cranks that couldn't care less about people in other countries.
Hope you're not looking to analyze the deep state or even the US government. Right Wingers criticize those!
You can say a lot about the actions of the US government fostering the animosity towards this country, about their willingness or ignorance that allowed the attacks to succeed, and the atrocities committed in the supposed name of justice that followed that day for the next two decades, but for 22 fucking years you haven’t, you’ve been lost in a brainworm soup and been distracted from organizing against the real problems.
Incoherent Liberalism.
The hole is the part where you really have to suspend all disbelief to carry water for the official story. The fuselage, which is made of cardboard, maintains structural integrity while the wings and engines, made of materials hundreds if not thousands of times stronger, completely dissolved without a trace.
Can you cite a passage? The only relevant thing I can see is talking about maintaining relations with post-coup Chile.
You are not the real world, you are a walled garden of privilege.
Waaaaahhhhh only 99% of everything I interact with is geared toward my Liberal Anti-Communist sensibilities waaaaahhhhh waaaaahhhhh why can't it be 100%
Stuff like this is, I think, a good demonstration of the thesis that Roderic Day advances: Westerners aren't anti-Communists because of the dastardly propaganda, it's the other way around: they believe this plainly absurd shit because they want to.
They are good little Roman citizens, always ready to believe that Rome is killing bad guys because that conquest is how they got their material abundance in the first place.
Peter Dale Scott's The Road to 9/11 basically places 9/11 in a much broader history of maneuvering between factions of the US government. While invading the Middle East was an extremely important outcome, it was part of a much broader package. Notably after 9/11 you have the PATRIOT Act and the immediate massive growth of the surveillance state. Joe Biden just renewed the national state of emergency that remains uninterrupted.
And even only in the context of the military and Imperialism, there were revolutionary changes in the attempt to acquire "full spectrum dominance." In the words of the Project for the New American Century, "the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."
Also I'm sorry for being rude with the vibes comment. I've had yet another bad day with little sleep.