PhilipTheBucket

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 0 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah! Start yelling and cursing, that's always fun. Who could forgot Lincoln's famous debate with Stephens featuring his immortal words "Don't fucking try to vicariously mischaracterize slavery with me, asshole"?

I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish here, but sure:

Are you saying you don't know of a time when Sanders voted for aid to Israel?

Do you know of a time he voted or introduced a bill to cut off aid to Israel? Did that happen? I'm still trying for you to educate me, outside of the realm of unfalsifiable counterfactuals. Maybe you can help me understand.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Initial thought: Well... but this is a transparently absurd way to set up an ML system to manage a vending machine. I mean it is a useful data point I guess, but to me it leads to the conclusion "Even though LLMs sound to humans like they know what they're doing, they does not, don't just stick the whole situation into the LLM input and expect good decisions and strategies to come out of the output, you have to embed it into a more capable and structured system for any good to come of it."

Updated thought, after reading a little bit of the paper: Holy Christ on a pancake. Is this architecture what people have been meaning by "AI agents" this whole time I've been hearing about them? Yeah this isn't going to work. What the fuck, of course it goes insane over time. I stand corrected, I guess, this is valid research pointing out the stupidity of basically putting the LLM in the driver's seat of something even more complicated than the stuff it's already been shown to fuck up, and hoping that goes okay.

Edit: Final thought, after reading more of the paper: Okay, now I'm back closer to the original reaction. I've done stuff like this before, this is not how you do it. Have it output JSON, have some tolerance and retries in the framework code for parsing the JSON, be more careful with the prompts to make sure that it's set up for success, definitely don't include all the damn history in the context up to the full wildly-inflated context window to send it off the rails, basically, be a lot more careful with how to set it up than this, and put a lot more limits on how much you are asking of the LLM so that it can actually succeed within the little box you've put it in. I am not at all surprised that this setup went off the rails in hilarious fashion (and it really is hilarious, you should read). Anyway that's what LLMs do. I don't know if this is because the researchers didn't know any better, or because they were deliberately setting up the framework around the LLM to produce bad results, or because this stupid approach really is the state of the art right now, but this is not how you do it. I actually am a little bit skeptical about whether you even could set up a framework for a current-generation LLM that would enable to succeed at an objective and pretty frickin' complicated task like they set it up for here, but regardless, this wasn't a fair test. If it was meant as a test of "are LLMs capable of AGI all on their own regardless of the setup like humans generally are," then congratulations, you learned the answer is no. But you could have framed it a little more directly to talk about that being the answer instead of setting up a poorly-designed agent framework to be involved in it.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 43 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Yeah it's a bunch of shit. I'm not an expert obviously, just talking out of my ass, but:

  1. Running inference for all the devices in the building to "our dev server" would not have maintained a usable level of response time for any of them, unless he meant to say "the dev cluster" or something and his home wifi glitched right at that moment and made it sound different
  2. LLMs don't degrade by giving wrong answers, they degrade by stopping producing tokens
  3. Meta already has shown itself to be okay with lying
  4. GUYS JUST USE FUCKING CANNED ANSWERS WITH THE RIGHT SOUNDING VOICE, THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE, THAT'S HOW YOU DO DEMOS WHEN YOUR SHIT'S NOT DONE YET

Yes which is why it's so important to react firmly to someone who's deliberately playing brinksmanship with a nuclear-armed defensive alliance, so as to correctly pass the can-I-push-the-boundaries test Putin is giving here. This is like lesson #1 about dealing with bullies.

I think they should have shot down the fighters and then sent footage of the falling wreckage to Putin overlaid with the "Curb Your Enthusiam" music and fade out with "Stay in your own airspace pls and thank you."

"It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." -Thomas Jefferson

Also applies to some Lemmy moderation decisions

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Feel free to answer the unfalsifiable counterfactual where I asked when Bernie Sanders had voted for aid to Israel, and quite a few times the person who had said that he had, changed the subject or started yelling or pretended not to understand or abruptly fell silent. I really look forward to you helping educate me on this, since it's all just my mistaken ness and you guys are the ones with the super-strong grasp on the facts.

  • The two genders for video game protagonists: Male and political
  • The two races for movie heroes: White and political
  • The two stances for MPs: Pro-Israel and "not neutral" NEW!
[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Yeah. In retrospect, it always seems pretty stupid that we thought we could just resolve things with diplomacy and the rabid dog hanging around the building will probably just calm down and stay in the back section and we just won't go there.

I feel like escalating to war because that's clearly what's up, and whatever happens happens, oh well, is one of the few areas where Churchill had it 100% right in the lead up to the global war.

The balls will be fastly sucked into the machine

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

Yeah my bad I should have sent some YouTube videos or linked to the text of some bills or something lol. I could have asked questions of the people I was talking to about what the factual details of what they were talking about were, I could have done a lot of things. I am sure they never would have just evaporated or refused to answer the factual questions I was asking, I am sure we could have come to an understanding since everyone involved in this conversation is super open to factual conversation

I feel bad now for just insisting super hard that Bernie's a GOOD guy, that was a bullshit approach

I'm done now, there is no point to this, it has been enjoyable chatting with you though. Have a wonderful day

Edit: This is what I'm talking about, I already gave the Bernie-betrayed-the-Palestinians gang an abundance of a chance to prove their case and they just wandered in circles yelling about how they were right.

 
 

Photo: AFP Four HBCUs have gone into lockdown due to “terroristic threats” targeting the campuses, per USA Today. As of Thursday (September 11) morning, Clark University, Alabama State University, Hampton University, and Virginia State University were on lockdown after unspecified threats were made against all three HBCUs. Virginia State issued an “urgent alert” at around … Continued

 

Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn, introduced a new war powers resolution on Thursday seeking to stop the Trump administration from conducting future strikes in the Caribbean after the U.S. attacked a boat leaving Venezuela last week. Text of the first congressional resolution to address the strike was shared exclusively with The Intercept.

“There was no legal justification for the Trump Administration’s military escalation in the Caribbean,” Omar said in a statement to The Intercept. “It was not self-defense or authorized by Congress. That is why I am introducing a resolution to terminate hostilities against Venezuela, and against the transnational criminal organizations that the Administration has designated as terrorists this year. All of us should agree that the separation of powers is crucial to our democracy, and that only Congress has the power to declare war.”

Congress has the “sole power to declare war” as outlined in the Constitution, though U.S. presidents often bypass this authority when carrying out international attacks. Omar, deputy chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, unveiled the resolution with the backing of CPC leaders, including caucus Chair Greg Casar, D-Texas, and caucus whip Rep. Jesús “Chuy” García, D-Ill.

Casar said Trump’s strike was illegal.

“Donald Trump cannot be allowed to drag the United States into another endless war with his reckless actions,” Casar said. “It is illegal for the president to take the country to war without consulting the people’s representatives, and Congress must vote now to stop Trump from putting us at further risk.”

The Intercept first reported on Wednesday that U.S. forces struck the boat multiple times in order to kill survivors, according to two U.S. officials granted anonymity to discuss the attacks.

News of the strike on the boat, which President Donald Trump claimed was carrying drugs from Venezuela, has divided some Republicans. Sen. Rand Paul revealed to The Intercept on Wednesday that the attack was a drone strike. A current Pentagon official denounced the strike as an attack on civilians that violated international law.

While the president is commander in chief of the U.S. military, the Constitution gives Congress the authority to declare war and authorize funding. The first war powers resolution of 1973 required the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of deploying U.S. forces abroad. Although Congress has not officially declared war since World War II, U.S. presidents have long found ways to authorize military action around the globe without Congress’s explicit permission.

The new resolution states that Congress has not declared war or enacted an authorization for use of military force against Venezuela or any transnational criminal organizations designated as terrorists since February. The measure also directs Trump to end the use of U.S. armed forces against Venezuela or any transnational criminal groups designated as terrorists without authorization by Congress.

Members of Congress in both parties have expressed concerns about Trump’s overreach in the use of military force. House Republicans are planning to advance a measure to repeal the president’s power to authorize military operations in the Middle East, as Politico and other outlets reported Tuesday. In June, after Trump ordered bombings in Iran, Democrats tried to advance a new war powers resolution which did not succeed in blocking the president’s actions. Trump has also proposed to “take over” Gaza, which the United Nations has said would violate international law.

García, the CPC whip, said the strike further exacerbated problems in a part of the world deeply damaged by U.S. interventions throughout history.

“The extrajudicial strike against a vessel in the Caribbean Sea is only the most recent of Trump’s reckless, deadly, and illegal military actions. Now, he’s lawlessly threatening a region already profoundly impacted by the destabilization of U.S. actions,” said García. “With this War Powers Resolution, we emphasize the total illegality of his action, and — consistent with overwhelming public opposition to forever war — reclaim Congress’ sole power to authorize military action.”

 

For the first time in many years, protestors were allowed to get close to delegates at this year’s Defence and Security Equipment International (DSEI) arms fair in East London. Richard Hames went down to find out how attendees sleep at night.

 

Maryam walked for two hours through the streets of Gaza, reciting verses of protection from the Quran. She was hunting for a faint internet connection. Under a sky choked with smoke and dust, Maryam wound through roads converted to sprawling tent camps and long lines of children waiting for food, until she arrived at an office building where she could catch a scrap of a data signal.

There, Maryam saw a lifeline. After weeks of applying — and making dangerous trips to connect to the internet — an American university had given her a full-ride admission into its computer science program. “I was trapped in darkness, but God gifted me something to be thankful for,” Maryam said.

That feeling was short-lived. After receiving her acceptance in April, she submitted her visa application earlier this month — right after the Trump administration instructed U.S. embassies to ban most Palestinian visitor visas. These restrictions, put in place in August, apply to students, as well as those traveling to the U.S. for business, medical treatment, or to visit family. “The suspension hit hard, but I was never shocked,” she said.

Continuing her higher education in Gaza would be impossible. Israel destroyed Maryam’s university in Gaza City, where she was a fourth-year software engineering student, in October 2023. She would have deeply grieved the faculty members who were killed, but the constant news of death has numbed her emotions. “Now, I just find a strange sense of peace for those who passed,” she said.

Maryam is one of at least a few dozen Palestinian students who recently received offers and scholarships from American universities. The ban means most Palestinian visa applicants will be refused. The students interviewed by The Intercept for this piece asked to go by pseudonyms, out of fear for their safety.

“The State Department is acting in an arbitrary and capricious manner against victims of genocide by suspending these visas and not giving any context or reason for why,” said Juliette Majid, a co-founder of Student Justice Network, a group that has been helping Palestinian students apply to American universities. “Even with all of these achievements, these students are still looked at as … a threat instead of a gift.”

While the Trump administration publicly announced stopping all visitor visas for individuals from Gaza on August 16, U.S. officials were not as transparent about expanding the ban. The measure was detailed in an August 18 cable sent by the State Department to American embassies and consulates around the world. “The administration is cowardly, because they know there’s going to be pushback,” Majid said.

The State Department said in an emailed response that the Trump administration’s actions are in compliance with U.S. law. “Every visa decision is a national security decision, and the State Department is vetting and adjudicating visa decisions for PA passport holders accordingly.”

The U.S. immigration system has developed ways to exclude people for decades, from the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, to the Muslim and African travel bans and family separation policies under Biden and Trump’s presidencies. But Palestinians have often been singled out for exclusion — not only for who they are, but also because they are stateless, and therefore unprotected under international law, said Los Angeles-based immigration lawyer Ban Al-Wardi.

Even before the visa ban, Palestinians in Gaza had to overcome a bureaucratic maze of requirements while surviving a famine and relentless bombing to arrange their admission and travel to American universities. The State Department already had broad discretion to deny visas. The doctrine of consular nonreviewability means it’s typically not possible for courts to review the reasons used to deny a visa. This leaves applicants with virtually no way to challenge decisions.

The American government’s typical vetting process includes a standard nonimmigrant visa form (the DS-160) that includes basic details about family, employment, school, and criminal record. Palestinians also need to get a criminal clearance report, issued by the Israeli police, to prove they have never been arrested. They must attend an in-person interview at an American embassy. For Palestinians in Gaza, getting to the consulate in Jerusalem is difficult because of restrictions on movement, so they typically go to the embassy in Cairo. But the Rafah crossing to Egypt has been shut down.

Some students reported being asked if they ever worked for a government agency in Gaza, volunteered for UNRWA, or taught at a public school, Al-Wardi notes. The interview often includes details about their family. “It’s like an information gathering session,” Al-Wardi said. “You might not know exactly what has been going on with your uncle or cousin, but you could be accused of omitting material facts if you don’t mention them.” Some students were called back for secondary interviews and received a supplemental DS-5535 form, which digs deeper into phone numbers, addresses, and emails associated with their name. Social media accounts must be public and provided to the American government. At the American airport, students from Arab countries are often pulled aside for a secondary screening in which U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers question them and search their electronic devices, Al-Wardi notes.

The American government has built-in processes to review secondary evidence in cases where key documents are not available, but getting those can be logistically complicated too. Gaza’s postal system has also been largely destroyed over the last three years. Many students used attorneys, notary public officials, family, and friends outside Gaza to help them access important documents and facilitate the process on their behalf.

Universities typically review academic transcripts as part of their admissions process. But many students lost school records, as well as birth certificates and proof of identity, after Israel bombed their homes and universities.

DEIR AL-BALAH, GAZA - NOVEMBER 7: Civil defense teams and citizens continue search and rescue operations after an airstrike hits the building belonging to the Maslah family during the 32nd day of Israeli attacks in Deir Al-Balah, Gaza on November 7, 2023. (Photo by Ashraf Amra/Anadolu via Getty Images)

Ali, a 40-year-old living in North Gaza with his wife and three children, wants to pursue a master’s degree in nutritional science. He applied to American universities last November but lost documents that proved his identity after Israel bombed his house in late 2023. He also needed a copy of his degree certificate, but his university in Gaza had been destroyed. One of his old professors, who moved to Canada from Gaza in 2023, helped Ali get another copy of the document. While Ali waited to hear back from the school, he worked for an American humanitarian organization as a nutritional program support officer, helping to find points to distribute hot meals and providing nutritional support to internally displaced Palestinians in Gaza.

Ali was excited to learn about his acceptance into an American university but later was disheartened by the ban. “I’m so frustrated that I’m unable to think,” he said. The plan was always to return to Gaza to apply what he learned into practice. “There is no [place with a] greater need for an effective nutrition program. I came to understand the importance of this field and the need for it, especially during the war.”

Aisha, a graduate student in physics, also lost her identification documents when Israel bombed her home in late 2023. She would walk almost an hour on foot, toward the Egyptian border, hoping to connect to the internet to complete her admissions process. Aisha used to live in Gaza City with her husband and two children but has since been displaced more than 19 times. She has lived in tents, as well as on the street. During her master’s program in physics, Israel destroyed her university and killed a physics professor who had become a mentor. He had scribbled the phrase “Stay well, my physicist” in her notebook a day before he died.

Lawyers and advocacy groups in the U.S. are now limited in their ability to help. The Student Justice Network assisted dozens of Palestinian students with their university applications and connected them with educational, legal, and community resources. The Arab Resource and Organizing Center’s Project Immigration Justice for Palestinians — made up of more than 400 volunteer lawyers, paralegals, and translators— helped Palestinian Americans reunite with family members trapped in Gaza. Some attorneys with the group focused on supporting Palestinians students in Gaza, who were admitted into American universities, in the visa application process.

In the meantime, Palestinian students are no longer looking to the U.S. as a lifeline. When Aisha received an acceptance and scholarship to pursue her Ph.D. at an American university, she cried and hugged her two children tightly, whispering to them, “We will survive this genocide.” She used to spend hours looking at photos of university labs abroad, knowing that they had access to materials and resources that are banned from entering Gaza.

When Aisha learned about the visa ban, she cried with the same intensity as when she was first accepted. “My only hope is to see my children grow up in a safe world, where science and knowledge guide us toward a brighter, more peaceful future,” she said. “We are not what they say about us.”

 

As part of its unprovoked invasion, Russia has been firing massed waves of drones and missiles into Ukraine for years, though the tempo has been raised dramatically in recent months. Barrages of 700-plus drones now regularly attack Ukraine during overnight raids. Russia also appears to have upped the ante dramatically by sending at least 19 drones into Poland last night, some of which were shot down by NATO forces.

Many of these drones are Shahed/Geran types built with technology imported from Iran, and they have recently gained the ability to fly higher, making shootdowns more difficult. Given the low cost of the drones (estimates suggest they cost a few tens of thousands of dollars apiece, and many are simply decoys without warheads), hitting them with multimillion-dollar missiles from traditional air defense batteries makes little sense and would quickly exhaust missile stocks.

So Ukraine has adopted widespread electronic warfare to disrupt control systems and navigation. Drones not forced off their path are fought with mobile anti-aircraft guns, aircraft, and interceptor drones, many launched from mobile fire teams patrolling Ukraine during the night...

 

The cofounders of Ben & Jerry’s published an open letter this week demanding that their parent company allow Ben & Jerry’s to operate independently, saying that the ice cream brand’s founding commitments to social justice are being undermined. In 2000, Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield sold their company to Unilever, which is now spinning off the ice cream brand, along with other businesses…

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