MarmiteLover123

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[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

NAFO has resorted to making fun of India rather than cope about a Rafale being shot down. The rest are sobering up, finally waking up to the reality that they need stealth/low observability and 5th generation capabilities, and no amount of electronic self protection/jamming systems on 4th or 4.5 generation aircraft makes up for a lack of stealth, despite all the copium from European nations that don't have F-35s about how their aircraft's self protection systems are equivalent to stealth. Bad news for Europe: their domestic stealth 5.5+ generation fighter is at least a decade away, the Global Combat Air Programme (GCAP). FCAS is even worse, 15 years away.

Think both India and France learned a valuable lesson last night after the most modern air-to-air engagement in history so far. France should swallow their pride and procure 5th gen and longer range air to air. India has AMCA (5th generation aircraft prototype). Would benefit from attritables like CCA (Collaborative Combat Aircraft, combat drones that operate alongside manned aircraft).

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The comments section of this article is also decent

We need to get comfortable with Chinese systems working as advertised and the age of legacy jets waning. Up to five jets downed should be a wakeup call, even if its just India

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Definitely going for the nothing ever happens route for now, India lost at least four aircraft carrying out nine stand off strikes, and Pakistan has yet to respond...

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In response to a news story about a French official saying, "yes, at least one Rafale was shot down" lmao. Even the people arming India are calling out their incompetence, likey to cover themselves and their product.

Even more embarrassing, one of the Rafales shot down was the first one ever delivered to India, look at the tail number:

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 44 points 1 day ago

Yeah Ukraine attacked the air base hosting the aerobatic aircraft which will be used during the parade.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't say nothing was accomplished, that conclusion can only be reached in isolation. The Israeli bombings of Yemen that took place over the past two days would not have been possible without the US carrying out their 50 day bombing campaign, with capabilities only the US has, in B-2 stealth bombers and EA-18G Growler Electronic Warfare aircraft. Yes, even for a force with rudimentary air defences such as Ansarallah/the Houthis, those assets/capabilities are now needed to suppress their air defence network to a sufficient level. Yemen has a lot of systems, many Iranian in design or origin, even if locally manufactured. Israel doesn't have the capabilities despite their large F-35 fleet (no EA-18Gs or B-2s in Israeli service), in reality the only country other than the US even close is China, and surprisingly I'd also put Australia third with their sizeable EA-18G fleet.

The Israeli bombing campaign did billions of dollars in damages to Yemeni civil society, their airport and airliners were completely destroyed, along with cement factories and their sea ports in Ras Isa (that was a US operation) and Hodeidah. Yes, none of this is explicitly military targets, but as the author points out, there are none left that haven't been hit multiple times by over a decade of bombings. And blowing up tunnel networks in a country as vast as Yemen, which requires unique "bunker buster" stand in bombs which have to be dropped directly over the target, and where the location and purpose of such structures isn't as well known as say Iran, becomes a very expensive game of whack a mole that produces minimal results beyond leaving a big hole in the ground. That's why Israel bombed the cement factories, to try halt the repair and construction of these tunnel networks.

Much like the Gaza ceasefire previously, I wonder how this will hold up long term. Are Israel going to continue bombing Yemen as Yemen continues lobbing ballistic missiles in their direction? Will the UK start more bombings on Yemen with their aircraft carrier arriving in the Red Sea soon (unlikely, but if pressured enough, they might not have a choice). Will the US restart bombings on Yemen?

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 69 points 1 day ago (19 children)

The Indian copium on social media about losing four flighter jets during an attack they started themselves is ridiculous, I've never seen anything like it. It makes Ukrainian NAFO and Zelensky cope seem normal by comparison. Modi supporters and bots are just spamming community notes, and official India government accounts are calling everything "disinformation".

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

It's literally recycled propaganda from the Soviet era. The USSR said that HIV/AIDS came from Fort Derrick too. Now China says COVID came from Fort Derrick.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah outlets are reporting a seperate crash site in Punjab, for four total crash sites. Pakistan claims to have shot down five aircraft, and that looks to be accurate as more information comes in. The ghost of Islamabad, unlike the ghost of Kiev, is actually real.

Imagine losing at least four aircraft over a couple of hours during an attack you started. That's India right now.

Chinese OSINT sleuths saying a Rafale got shot down

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[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'm still kind of in shock that India managed to lose 4 fighter jets, likely including a Dassault Rafale (India has just signed a $7.4 billion deal for 26 Rafales plus long term support, over $280 million per aircraft), during what was supposed to be some very low risk operation with long range standoff weapons. It turns out that Pakistan seems to have been telling the truth about what they shot down at least.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The usual nonsense and conspiracies. Al Masirah TV visited the site of the bombing a day after (at Bajil Cement Factory), it did not look like ground zero of a nuclear explosion.

Because of the energy situation in Yemen, many factories or large scale facilities use large generators as a source of electricity, some of which use heavy crude oil as fuel. Israeli airstrikes hit this, causing large explosions and fires. The usual bad actors on social media used this to say that nuclear explosions occurred.

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