What source, it's a picture. Can you please post it, and the wiki article?
Juice
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If you want to learn bourgeois economics, become conservative. If you want to understand bourgeois economics, read Marx. -- Rogan Renald
Read Value, Price and Profit
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"The last capitalist will sell us the rope we will use to hang him"
Deeply unserious
I can dig it. Yeah Friere's context was fairly specific, so he developed a method for teaching illiterate peasants how to read that starts with restoring their subjective experience and imbues them with revolutionary consciousness, and this is what motivates them to want to learn. He's viciously critical of teaching methods where a teacher dictates, which is the primary teaching method in the west.
Your comment touches some problems that face socialists in the core, like why do people act against their own interest and how do we get people who are imbued with sympathy and motivated to change things to become class conscious and revolutionary? Your comment reminds me of Friere because a lot of socialists have this experience of "radicalizing" which starts by just like giving up these preconceived notions that are force fed to us. The peasants that Friere talks about have a similar spell cast on them, they see themselves the way they are seen by the ruling class, as mere toilers with no potential, lower than animals even, dehumanized through oppression. And like, even those of us who benefit from the wages of imperialism and privilege, etc., are also alienated from each other and nature, we are subjected to the same dehumanizing forces, and dehumanizing the other dehumanizes the self. A lot of socialists are, understandably like, "so what? Fuckem." And maybe that's all there is to it. Friere was pretty insistent that the methods used to help the oppressed gain consciousness don't work on the oppressors. But yet there are always those within the oppressing "group" who actively fight against oppression. And in my experience, most of us started out educated the same way, by the same forces, receiving the same privileges, etc., so why didn't it stick, or how can it be unstuck?
Not sure what I'm trying to say here. Thanks for your response and comment.
Gonna have to push back here for a few reasons: 1. Just because a historian is conservative or even anticommunist, does not mean they are liars and their writings, if skewed toward their own ideological preferences and those of their audience, isn't based in fact. 2. I found A History if the Jews on Libgen, and the source that he cites is Howard Sachar, ‘The Arab-Israel Issue in the Light of the Cold War’, (Washington DC), 1966, 2.
I don't know about Howard Sachar's attitude toward communism, and I couldn't find a copy of the book that was cited, but I did find Dreamland: Europeans and Jews in the Aftermath of the Great War which contains about 150 pages about Rosa Luxemburg that casts her in a very good light from what I can tell. So not a guy with an axe to grind against communism.
Unfortunately I can't find an independent resource supporting the original claim (although I swear I've seen one somewhere) but your argument is, at best, disingenuous and based on vibes