It's a rather bizarre argument, essentially saying "it's not the whole solution so it's not a solution at all"
Lawdamercy, can you please say it louder for the people in the back whinging that they refuse to vote for Biden because his Climate Bill wasn't perfectly everything all at once? In the face of the Republican denialist obstructionism, it's pretty fucking miraculous. The ultimate solution to climate change is going to be a patchwork quilt of a million different tiny solutions
This reminds me of one of my favorite wholesome jokes:
Guy is driving down the highway with 17 penguins in the back of his car. Cop pulls him over, shakes his head and says, "Man, I don't even want to know. You gotta take these penguins to the zoo right now."
Guy looks forlorn, but nods and says, "Alright officer," before driving off.
Next day, same guy is driving down the street with 17 penguins in the back of his car. Cop pulls him over and says, "Listen, I thought I told you to take these penguins to the zoo yesterday!"
Guy says, "I did! Today we're going to the beach!"
No individual human being has infinite time to dedicate to sifting through every insane conspiracy theory and terrible political theory that has ever been thunk. We, as a species, need to decide what we should and should not spend our limited time engaging with. Sometimes, that means listening to experts who have taken the time to study the subject in more detail than we will ever have time in our lives, and trusting their word on the matter.
For example, no one feels like they have to waste public time refuting the existence of aether (yet, anyway, though I'm sure the flat earthers will get around to it.) For another example, smart people who study history for a living identify several of key characteristics common to fascist political parties that look suuuuuper familiar to anyone looking at the modern day Republican party in the US.
We do not have infinite resources. Infinite time, infinite brain power, infinite public discourse. Just as it is widely recognized that it's fine to limit discussions of pro-anorexia groups for the public good, so too is it fine to limit the reach of harmful ideas like vaccine conspiracy theories, Neo-nazi recruitment of young people, whether or not people with this characteristic or that characteristic have equal rights and deserve life and freedom, climate change "debate"...
And some "ideas" that might not seem that harmful on their face should be suppressed when it is clear they are being deliberately used to lead people down paths toward much more harmful ideas for the profit of grifters. (Like Qanon and the Alt-Right YouTube pipeline)
It is ok for us to moderate what is said in public. We have always done this because it is necessary to a functioning, healthy society.
All ideas deserve to be refuted
This kind of uncritical placing of all ideas on the same footing, deserving of the same treatment is not enlightenment.
It's wild to me, old enough to remember the thick clouds of yellow smog that used to blanket Los Angeles and acid rain dissolving historical buildings and statues, to see how far we've advanced in reigning in air pollution. I can kind of understand the struggle that older generations have in updating their ideas about what is and is not acceptable. All the more reason to have age restrictions on politicians to try to make advancement possible at the speeds required to save the species from climate change.
I always struggled to imagine what dodos must have looked like irl until I saw these things. They almost look make-believe! Happy to see them reintroduced.
What lab leak?
"our analyses indicate that the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 occurred through the live wildlife trade in China and show that the Huanan market was the epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic"
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715
Public censorship of ideas is not evil. Never has been, never will be. Should you be able to find out about bad ideas in a library? Absolutely. Should we allow social media to amplify and legitimize those ideas? No. I want Mein Kampf freely available for people to read. I don't want Neo-nazis to be able to use online platforms to recruit vulnerable teenagers.
https://gizmodo.com/why-censorship-is-part-of-everyday-life-section-230-1850095976
Preventing the non-consensual sharing of nude pictures of a man on a social media platform in no way "suppressed" information about Hunter Biden. I was very well aware of the entire argument without ever being on Twitter or having those photographs shared. Twitter is not a news organization and they were right to restrict sharing of those pictures.
I'm sorry, but you come in here parroting an awful lot of bad talking points commonly shared by people who most certainly are my enemies, however you choose to think about yourself that allows you to sleep at night. It doesn't matter how kindly you speak about it, some ideas deserve to be refuted.
Oh noes! If he pays more in taxes he might be just regular old dirty rich instead of obscenely-no-one-could-ever-contrubute-enough-to-the-world-to-justify-this-level-of-wealth-accumulation rich. I feel so sorry for him.
Show me all those examples of the Democrats banning books. I'll wait.
People experiencing social repercussions for their public speech that society deems inappropriate absolutely is not the same thing as passing laws restricting freedoms the way the a Republicans currently are doing en masse.
This was not a good year for me to pick up Kim Stanley Robinson's "Ministry of the Future" book
Have fun killing yourselves for other people's profit, I guess? I'm joining a union.
Wait, what? I'm on kbin.social and I almost never see hexbear stuff. Why would blocking that instance not work? I blocked the grad like my second day here.