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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It’s not the speed that kills you, it’s the force?

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 42 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Correct, but if V is larger, F will be larger too, assuming m has no measurable change, so it's quite a tautological statement.

[–] lurker8008@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

Delta T is the difference between concrete wall vs those crash rails and water tanks allowing you down slowly. It's not that bad to slow down from 0.1c if you do it over the course of a few centuries

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's not the force that kills you, it's the crushing of your inner organs.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 13 points 2 years ago

It's not the crushing of your inner organs that kills you, its your lack of off site backups of your consciousness 😜

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Forces don't kill people. People kill people.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 4 points 2 years ago

It takes a good force with a person to stop a bad force with a person.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

unless you reduce the mass

[–] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

And here I was always told it was the sudden stop that gets you

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Somehow, Palpatine returned.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Oh, maxi-big the Force. Well that smells stink-o-whiff.

[–] user1234@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They have nothing to worry about. The dv/dt of a Nissan Xterra is minimal.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the positive direction yeah.

I imagine a sports car and a Nissan Xterra have about the same negative acceleration when running into a concrete wall.

[–] user1234@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago

Not if it never reaches tmax.

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To be even more pedantic, isn't it the impulse?

[–] dmMeYourNudes@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 years ago

It is, but they got the spirit

[–] ShaunaTheDead@fedia.io 17 points 2 years ago

Vf = Vi + at

Means final velocity equals initial velocity plus the product of acceleration and time of acceleration.

F = m(ΔV / ΔT) or F = ma

The second equation is much simpler and means force is equal to the product of mass and acceleration.

This can basically be broken down to be "it's not the speed that kills you, it's the sudden deceleration" which is usually attributed to Eddie Rickenbacker who was an American WWI pilot.

"It's not the speed that kills you, it's the sudden stop" - Eddie Rickenbacker

It was also famously paraphrased by Jeremy Clarkson:

“Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.” - Jeremy Clarkson, Top Gear

[–] Cuzscience@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Exactly! (By definition)

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago
[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago
[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

This makes me want to play Escape From Butcher Bay again.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

It’s the plastic deformation that kills you