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[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 118 points 1 year ago

This is an ongoing example of why conservatives are the enemy. They are actively trying to destroy any form of democratic and people controlled process.

This is not and has never been a "both sides are bad" situation. And anyone trying to argue as such is just as bad as the conservatives.

[-] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah; I feel like people need to recognize that

Neither side is good

!=

Both sides are bad.

There is one party that is actively unraveling our democracy and it's not the Democrats. I don't have to love them to realize that they are the better choice. And even then, I'd say the Democrats are "good-ish," and many are trying to be good. They're just not great. ¯\(ツ)

[-] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

During the 1940s, and particularly during WWII, the US was extremely discriminatory (to the point of outright murderous) to black people and rounded up anyone of Japanese descent and put them in camps (often while white people took over their old areas they'd carved out for themselves). They were awful to gays as well.

But you know what the US didn't do? Murder millions of their own citizens in an organized genocide, stripping them of their humanity before killing them en masse in gas chambers.

But nobody (sane) "two-sides" WWII. The US wasn't good, but it was definitely on the right side of that fight, and the fascists needed to be stopped. If we waited for some "good" country to stop the Axis, because we didn't want to support the US, the fascists would have won.

The saying goes "the perfect is the enemy of the good," but sometimes the Good is the enemy of stopping goddamn fascists.

[-] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The way you phrased the last sentence makes it seem like you think the phrase "perfect is the enemy of good" means that perfect is better than good, which while true isn't the point of that phrase.

I'm assuming you wrote it that way for dramatic effect, but I wrote this comment for today's 10,000

P.S. can someone calculate what that number would be for the global population, as the 10,000 is for the US

[-] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The phrasing was intentional, and symmetrical. The point of the phrase is if you are holding out for the perfect, you'll fail to even get the good. And if you are holding out for a "good" politician (e.g. refusing to vote because your particular chosen politician isn't in the race), you'll fail to keep fascists away from power.

[-] HWK_290@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah but Biden couldn't cancel my student loans so I'm voting for the other guy this time

/s in case it wasn't obvious

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 87 points 1 year ago

It's no secret what Republicans stand for. I worry that there might be enough of them to continue unraveling the basic fabric of this society.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

It's really as simple as doing what you can to increase you areas local public education dollar.

It's just an education thing. We need to spend more on education, and the problem will slowly go away. Teachers need more money, schools need more money, our colleges need more money. It's getting bad.

There's a reason Devos did what she did to public education, and it has everything to do with her brother being a founding member of Blackrock.

The military spend is stupid and the education spend is a joke. But the lack of education breeds the voters who salute the military spend blindly.

[-] DrPop@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago

We should be allowed to sue these individuals for working against the agency they were put in charge of.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I think there are mechanisms for that tbh. It's disheartening.

She should have never had a high level govt position with a family member so highly invested in something so political. Clear conflicts of interest.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Fascism is not "just an education thing."

God fucking dammit.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I don’t think you’re foggy at all. Spot on.

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago

Earlier that session, Sexton warned Jones he was nearly “impugning the reputation” of Republican Rep. Gino Bulso by calling Bulso’s bills “reprehensible,” “asinine,” and “insulting,” including one being discussed at the time that would allow private schools with pre-kindergarten classes to have policies allowing guns on campus.

Democrats noted that Bulso himself had been told to stay on topic, including when he said Jones “continually misrepresents facts to the public,” then later said Jones “makes outrageous statements,” without being put up for a vote on whether he should be silenced.

So saying the bill is reprehensible, asinine, and insulting is impugning the author's reputation, but saying the guy himself misrepresents the facts and makes outrageous statements is perfectly acceptable.

These guys are so revoltingly hypocritical.

[-] resin85@lemmy.ca 64 points 1 year ago

Earlier that session, Sexton warned Jones he was nearly “impugning the reputation” of Republican Rep. Gino Bulso by calling Bulso’s bills “reprehensible,” “asinine,” and “insulting,” including one being discussed at the time that would allow private schools with pre-kindergarten classes to have policies allowing guns on campus.

There are no words to describe the insanity of the right wing gun nuts. Allowing guns around 2-4 year old toddlers, what the hell is wrong with these people?

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

The only thing that can stop a bad toddler with a gun is a good toddler with a gun.

[-] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

They can't shoot up the school if they've already shot each other.

[-] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

There are no words to describe the insanity of the right wing gun nuts.

"Reprehensible," "asinine," and "insulting" seem to fit pretty well.

[-] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

I see Tennesee's wannabe dictators are at it again. The GOP does not want to govern it wants to rule.

[-] BeMoreCareful 10 points 1 year ago

The Nashville elite are used to running Nashville. It's a tight knit club that everyone knows not to defy. It's been that way for a long long time. It's not even a just republican thing, it's a certain Nashville republicans thing.

That's why they act like spoiled children when someone says anything other than "thank you".

[-] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

You wanna talk about tight-knit clubs in the South? you should check out this story: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/26/black-mayor-alabama-town-locked-out

Literal "good ole boys club" ruling a 80% black rural town without any elections in living memory loses power through legal defaults, then decides "fuck it" and keeps ruling based on their personal and social influence.

[-] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

Republican legislative leaders aren’t taking up significant any gun control changes, including the governor’s push to keep guns away from people judged to pose a threat to themselves or others.

They'll be damned if anyone is gonna call em out on their bullshit, especially a person of color.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 16 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The vote prompted loud cries and chants that drowned out proceedings for several minutes even after the House speaker ordered the gallery to be cleared out.

Moments prior, Jones had been criticizing legislation that would have allowed more law enforcement officers in schools and began listing other resources that the state should be providing.

Under new rules adopted by the GOP-dominant chamber last week, members can be silenced anywhere from a day to the rest of the year for not sticking to the bill being debated.

What happened next was a chaotic flurry of legislative proceedings, where Democrats outraged at the decision to move ahead with trying to silence Jones for the day began pleading with and trying to convince their GOP colleagues to change their minds.

The crowd, which included gun control advocates urging change in a special session after a deadly Nashville school shooting in March, shouted “fascists” and “racists,” and Sexton ordered troopers to clear out the gallery of the public.

The demonstration came just days after a shooter opened fire at a private Christian school in Nashville, killing three children and three adults.


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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Man these guys seem like some real jerks.

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