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[Dr] Max Mollenkopf estimates he sees two or three patients each day at his GP practice in Mulubinba/Newcastle who don't need treatment but require a medical certificate for work.

For employees, a trip to the doctor for a medical certificate can be time-consuming and costly, especially if your appointment isn’t bulk-billed.

Meanwhile, these appointments can take clinical time from people who are genuinely sick, Dr Mollenkopf says.

"If someone is sick and they want to see me, every day of the week I want them to be able to come in," he says.

"I didn't sign up to do medicine to do HR policy on behalf of large corporations."

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[-] MuffinHeeler@aussie.zone 13 points 1 month ago

Genuine question. GPs complain about the complexity of cases increasing and therefore higher Medicare rates should apply. While I completely agree with this (my GP 1000% needs to be paid more), shouldn't that mean that they like low complexity visits like this? Bring someone in, sign med cert, you are on your way. They have probably spent 5-10mins of a 15min appointment and can use that time to catch up.

[-] OsaErisXero@kbin.run 22 points 1 month ago

The overhead, in manhours, paperwork, and simply room-time doesn't go away for low/no complexity cases, it simply reduces available capacity for the practice. These are people who would, generally, just stay at home for a few days to recover normally and only engage with a doctor if the symptoms persisted, and are only in to see a doctor so they get that paper. A paper which only exists to prevent people from 'abusing' sick days.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Not to mention there's no magical force at doctors' offices that prevents illness from spreading, so you could get others sick and they could get you even more sick.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It wastes an hour or more every day, for every GP. That's a huge waste of resources and unnecessary increase in demand, which means less availability for patients who are actually sick.

Believe it or not, most doctors actually want to help people rather than be a cog in some bureaucratic machine.

[-] Tregetour 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

If the employee is frequently on sick leave and is required to produce paper, that's a trust issue. But if the manager can't recall when the employee was last ill yet still demands one, then they've shown they cannot distinguish trust from compliance.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago

Genuine question: can doctor's certificates be claimed on tax? They're a work related expense that you wouldn't seek otherwise.

Most workplaces that have demanded a cert from me i've just ignored. Two hour pay penalty for using my leave entitlement? Piss off.

[-] Ilandar@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago

Isn't this the point of medical certificates from pharmacies? Except GPs don't like those either.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I just scanned a digital copy one of my old medical certificates and edit the dates whenever I need a recent one.

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

I think its not really a problem to seek proof and still get paid. There needs to be an element of trust, but the few that abuse that trust ruin it for everyone.

What we shouldn't be doing is wasting tax payer money on these certs. It should be a private appointment paid for by the conpanybthwt wants it with no rebate. I assume they won't be as necessary then.

I also thi k we should look at benefits like sick pay to be paid by government rather than employer. For large companies, it cones out in the wash but small companies are dying off and cash flow is probably the biggest issue they have.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nah, fuck that. Sick pay is literally built into your contract as an entitlement. If you get it, your yearly salary as presented to you as your employment already accomodates x days sick, same as x days holidays. You can't 'abuse' it, if you run out of sick leave then it comes out of annual, or you don't get paid. There is no rort, it's already part of your farking salary.

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