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Bc sometimes, y'all white as fuck and I need time away.
This is real I can't argue with this
Very sorry. Id change it if i could.
This is what they're talking about.
This is a hairs breadth away from "I'd vote for Obama a third time if I could"
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That "would if I could" is an awfully defeatist sentiment, isn't it? Wouldn't you rather think constructively of active steps you can take to improve the situation?
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Yeah, it's perfectly valid and fair to need some time away from people acting white as fuck sometimes, my soul needs some time away from my body whenever I catch myself acting white as fuck too
100% real; sometimes you only catch it in hindsight and just "fuuuuuck..."
Every morning is a process of killing the white man in your head
I come here because it's less white than my normal surroundings 
Marxist hipsters that engage in the “you’re not as leftist as me or you haven’t read as much theory as me so your opinion is not only going to be brigaded but is also a bannable offense” is what causes me to never post shit on here.
I don't really see this much anymore, which is maybe because everyone is genuinely too afraid of being banned to effortpost, or because the culture has changed such that it doesn't happen anymore. I know it USED to feel like this and that actually did get me to stop posting more than once, so, I don't disagree. Maybe give it another try though, if only because I haven't seen it in a while
Lots of effort posting in the news mega thread still. For those scared to engage, just best the Marxist hipsters at their own game and post theory. It's what I do lol.
I am glad that someone sort of hears me. It's still like this as of today and IMO, it will never, ever change as long as there are people moderating this instance who believe that even a slight variation from any one of their beliefs must be resolutely banned or brigaded lest it metasticize and grow into a counter-movement.
oh word, which slight variations have you seen being banned? 
Someone dared to insinuate that North Korea is perhaps not totally awesome after all.
if only more people had the courage to speak up and chime in with all capitalist media to give license to 75 years of genocidal occupation
This child I keep punching in the face has some personality traits I think are maladaptive
And I'm brave enough to say it
i'm sympathetic to this but genuinely, if we don't critique on account of the overwhelming imperialist information network, but also largely discount/reject the imperialist narrative, how do we arrive at a real perspective? the opposite of the west's narrative cannot be true in all cases
if someone is going to come in with a critique it's going to have to at least acknowledge all of the stuff that is usually elided by capitalist media, because that's the ocean we all exist in and unfortunately it's necessary to distinguish yourself from the mass delusion to be taken seriously.
it's not great and we're on the other side of this sometimes, like when liberals accuse Hillary detractors of misogyny and you have to first establish your feminist bona fides to have any hope with someone steeped in that defense
EDIT: now that I think about it it's way worse because a sizable portion of mass media was anti-Hillary. there is no mass media that favors DPRK or even deviates from the crazy hermit kingdom narrative
this just feels like a dead end in this context, intellectually i get where you're coming from but how this interaction went was: user explains hesitance to post because of they're afraid of getting piled on-->someone baits an example out-->dogpile
rhetorically i think the conversation's just been terminated or forced into a confrontation instead of something educational. and sort of proved their point.
idk where im going with this because i totally get not wanting to coddle liberals and the desire to dunk---but i also see how it sucks to have to exonerate yourself of holding water for imperialists just to begin a conversation about DPRK or some other AES 
yeah I hear you, I knew that was a risk. I just don't know if there's any real gain to outsiders for a left critique of DPRK until the occupation ends, I mean they are still at war even.
I guess it's hard for me to keep my mouth shut when someone whines that they get pushback for being negative about a country that's vilified in literally every piece of western mass media. how can anyone expect not to in that environment? and now that I think of it it doesn't even map to Hillary because there was plenty of mass media shitting on Hillary
EDIT: I wasn't trying to be an asshole in my initial comment, I hoped my tone was more mild and mostly sarcastic. but I am a little wasted rn so if I misjudged things I apologize
Let's not give them too much credit
Someone dared to insinuate that North Korea is perhaps not totally awesome after all.
They were being condescending and hyperbolic. It wasn't some uwu smol bean talking about their concern over the cult of personality, problems with the special economic zone, reactionary messaging from state outlets, or any number of other real criticisms that you can easily enough offer and get at least thoughtful replies, if not broad agreement on. It was none of that, it was "radical free-thinker dares to wrongthink against absurd dogma."
Like, I disagree with plenty of hexbears -- I've had you blocked for a long time and had to remove it to reply to your comment here. There's a difference between that and being a patronizing piece of shit over it, so assuming that jackass had something worthwhile to say instead of the same absolute horseshit that 99% of the anglophone world would offer on the topic is silly.
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What was the specific content of their statement? Do you remember or could you link it?
I have to agree with this. I have some opinions that slightly deviate from the more sanguine attitudes on foreign policy I've seen others express here and I've been reluctant to voice that.
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Fuckin yep. There's only so many times people are willing to put up with certain cadres being absolute assholes, writing huge debatebro posts about how you're wrong about every detail and wherever you're right you shouldn't say it, and how you're a reactionary anticommunist westoid before it just isn't worth it anymore.
People who have the "correct position" have a lot of license to behave poorly here, and it sucks.
This isn't even to touch on the feeding frenzy when someone whose home instance isn't here isn't exceptionally careful with everything they say.
People who have the "correct position" have a lot of license to behave poorly here, and it sucks.
This is a big reason why I don't post a lot of responses to some positions I disagree with. Even though I only mean to be constructive, I don't want to attract that kind of attention nonetheless.
idk about that. For instance, a lot of users like the concept of the "PMC" (Professional Managerial Class) that many well-read Marxists would scoff at. I just like Lemmygrad because I know the communities better. Hexbear feels more like shitposts.
You absolutely nailed it, sorry the thing you hate happening happened to you because you explained how you hate when it happens, that sucks
I haven't read much theory and they still allow me to post once in a while, as a treat.
I hate to say it, but the owlposting scares them away anyways here's a triforce
i am not a hexbear power poster i cannot even triforce
uh, we already went over this on another account. let me pose a question to you:
Redditors of Lemmy, why have you built a cargo cult around a set of forum rules which has produced the most annoying scenarios we've seen in our lives (Reddit)? why haven't you used this as a bridge to the fediverse, and instead become overly involved with pruning your garden?
Reactionaries of lemmy, why do you hate trans people, queer people, non white people, marginalized people, oppressed people, and all people who aren't white straight wealthy men? This is why Hexbear has defederated from all over the place, because most of the fediverse is incredibly hostile to anyone who isn't a white straight wealthy man. And no, "just sharing ideas" and "freedom of peach" and "it's the internet just don't read posts you don't like" and "censorship pushes people away" and whatever else anyone might say in defense of the rest of the fediverse are not valid excuses for harboring literal hate speech. Stop using slurs, stop rabidly defending racism and oppressive institutions, and maybe folks like you won't get banned. It's not a cargo cult, it's literally just providing basic human decency.
you have no idea how gay we are on mastodon and its forks. this place is practically straight to me now. there are loads of gay people to connect with on the fediverse
I can't go find out how gay the rest of the fediverse is because they're too busy supporting people and policies that are literally trying to kill me
🤠 i literally make these people fear for their lives. they r complaining about lgbt doxxers almost as often as the are complaining about black lives matter. you can just imply ur stalking them and they go nuts for like years with reminders.
go on any instance and go to the account @palestine@a.gup.pe it's a group that aggregates tagged posts across all instances. we are beating these liberals within an inch of their life. what are they gonna do ban me from mastodon.social AGAIN? i already muted it or blocked it on half my accounts.
you do not have a monopoly on hating joe biden. eugene does not have a monopoly on the main twitter alternative. he is a sick bastard good at capturing mindshare tho
i will never understand chan and redditor elitism towards twitter because i have repeatedly made bridges to represent each other's posts on each other's software because it's nigh identical outside weird mistakes like misskey not being able to read lemmy bc it hardcodes some stupid shit
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Honestly, I've always hated the twitter/microblogging format; and would go back to phpBB if it was feasible or populated in this day and age, but unfortunately, I have to make do with what the masses have elected as "the new format".
I am literally translating chinese posts with one click, this is posting heaven. Hexbear can be a little fun sometimes but it's just goofiness, dooming, or aggregation. It feels like there's something actually happening there. Half the time I translate chinese and it works PERFECTLY now (maybe the guy hosting me is using deepl pro or something else idk) I just learned way more than i knew there was to learn about the discovery that tea poured into milk turns out differently than milk into tea
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Well maybe I'm an insane person, because it turns out I love it now that te charlimits are exploding from 5,000 to 50,000 lol. What was twitter? SMS style 160? Fuck!!
The point is they're all just timelines of posts with replies. No idea why you guys want to click on next page and expand post hundreds of times when you could literally have auto scroll auto refresh and 6 parallel timelines. It's like TweetDeck but free.
Misskey forks are getting into actually usable territory, I would try that before you write off the whole software and posting format. Go look at how the Japanese people on there post, it's insane. Coming back here is like seeing American infrastructure after traveling, complete with people arguing with you about why it should be that way. That being said someone on https://tech.lgbt/ just exposed how bad Msky's code for defederation is lmaooo
Also good to point out the libs technically have us in our containment zone and the creation of mutual containment zones is one of the features of federation. 🤠 But Mastodon and Threads definitely are chonkier. We are creating a network of thousands of websites with hundreds, thousands, tens, even hundreds lf thousands of non-bot non-alt active users, where people are free to speak the truth. I'm not super good at figuring out digital activism strategies anyways, I am a better organizer imho. I am fine at creating online analysis spaces but that's not a proliferating thing. It's a place I work on reading guides and articles with friends.
I'm not saying every space should be about letting everone in, I'm saying there are places on microblogging instances that would play well with you all. There are also blahaj-zone type weirdos to be fair but seems like a minority to me.
I think Hexbear would be fine if it kept the same hyper-restrictive federation but incorporated microblog posts. Not in the terrible way KBIN/MBIN does. Also their userbases are all lemmy.world-core as hell
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Infrequent poster, but if we're complaining about Hexbear culture is that there are often leaks in personalities here - I among the guilty - that treat socialism, writers, and world events as avenues for self-actualization that put me off.
The socialister-than-thou posts, for its own sake and not when dunking on reactionaries, I mean.
Yes, folks who base their entire personality on one specific brand of socialism based on one book written in 1993 by someone nobody has ever heard of but is apparently THE MOST IMPORTANT SOCIALIST WRITER IN HISTORY are problematic and need to stop
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I agree with this take. I've heard from some online commentators that this is a trend that affects social media in general and considerably inhibits collaboration on any project, including leftists trying to discuss building socialism in the current political landscape. Leftists in general should develop a strategy to deal with this phenomenon.
I actually switched instances so I can interact with you lot. You guys have your own culture that's hard to really penetrate when someone isn't one of you.
I chime in when I have something to add or on one of the subjects we agree on, but I'll always feel like I'm walking on eggshells, or, well, I feel like an outsider anyway.
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I already get accused of being a hexbear alt, I even got banned from one comm for being an a secret hexbear and that always made me feel weird about posting here.
That's kinda weird tbh and I'm sorry that happened
Thanks! It was so weird it felt like I did a thoughtcrime or something
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I will add that this experience of having people accuse you of being reactionary for no reason and then getting no response is probably a big driver for "power posters" not wanting to come here but I'd like to add belatedly that it's simply how few posts you actually see on here. It's just like, infosec, lemmygrad which is the same, lemmy, not rly much to see
And then you run the risk of people getting extremely confrontational out of nowhere and deciding you're a fascist because they only see Lemmy posts and their context has become reddit... idk what is an appeal of posting here?
can you name any reason why power posters SHOULD eschew the benefits of better software and wider community?
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