They don't care, they think a trash community without proper moderation will still generate enough traffic for them and it's probably going to be true.

Just wanted to say, I really enjoyed Reddit prior to the API-apocalypse. I appreciated all of you guys and gals over there keeping things structured and orderly. I came from Slashdot to Digg to Reddit and now Lemmy. Really enjoying it here but there’s always that thought in the back of my mind of hoping it doesn’t grow to the scope of Reddit.

Right now, we seem to have a lot of technical folks who contribute. Far less fighting and drama. It’s been nice. lol

Hey hello. I made my first “resignation” post last night. I haven’t had time to properly untangle everything yet but im here now.

This is a great point, and a great link. Reddit doesn't understand the extent to which "user goodwill" in general and "moderator goodwill" in particular were crucial to its business model. Without them, it's not going to make any difference what they do, profits will not, as Huffman put it, "arrive."

(Relatedly, what a revealing way to put it. Huffman obviously thought he was sitting on a heap of static assets he could tap into for quick profits instead of a dynamic system he could have cultivated for a rich harvest. Too late now for either, I expect, though he may catch the dregs if he's lucky).

The decay is already very noticable in some subs. The one I frequented most for example.....wow, what a shitshow that turned into. It was once a place where moderators nuked bot accounts and karma farmers within an hour or so, content was interesting / helpful with only a random meme here and there, guides that were actually based on proper sources instead of "dude trust me", art that was properly credited .... of course there were also occasionally some low-grade posts, but those were seldom upvoted. Last time I checked you couldn't find a single actually worthwile thing buried under the sheer amount of shitposts, Karma Farming reposts, obvious bot accounts and T-shirt scammers, almost all of them upvoted by the thousands. I couldn't stand to look at it for more than a minute and haven't opened reddit ever since.

NGL, it does hurt a bit to see that sub I once loved turn into a dumpster fire, but on the flip side I'm glad that I jumped ship before it happened. I honestly like it better here.

Damn! How many hours did you volunteer per week when you moderated 80?

That’s not really my place to say something like that. When you spend literal YEARS building something on someone else’s platform, it takes a bit of time to let go.

I personally had a hard time adjusting to the idea of losing Apollo, an app I spent thousands of hours using. I can’t imagine having to let go of a massive community you’ve worked so hard to build.

I think they are trying to come up with an exit strategy to another platform. They like Lemmy World but don’t like the fractured idea of each instance having the same name for a community.

In reality, it’s just an excuse to put off the inevitable. They really don’t want to rebuild, so it’s all or nothing and a tough thing to let go.

This is true, but think of it like this:

There was a social contract, an informal agreement, between moderators and Reddit - "We'll moderate for you on this site, for free, as long as you provide a good enough place for the community to exist and enough support to help us out".

This has been mostly worth it for a long time; even during shittier times, mods could be confident that their own space was under their stewardship and so could be protected from the worst that would come.

But now Reddit is being openly hostile toward its moderators, when in the past the most that has ever been expressed is indifference or ignorance. The website is getting worse, and so is the vibe - and so the deal is no longer worth it, so to speak.

That's my thoughts on it, as a moderator there for 6 years who left a few weeks ago.

Voyager and Apollo. It makes sense why the name was suddenly changed.

I miss RIF!

I mean, I don't even mind if it's not the "next biggest thing". I just want it to be a solid community with a good mix of growth and quality.

If you liked Apollo, like me, it’s highly possible that you will also enjoy voyager. It’s basically a web UI for Lemmy, heavenly inspirier by Apollo. Here is the link to the GitHub: https://github.com/aeharding/voyager

And here to see the WebUI instance live in action: https://vger.app/

Edit: nevermind, i didn’t read your comment detailed enough, because you already mentioned it