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submitted 6 months ago by Hohsia@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

I don’t count productivity or coding as a net good for what it’s worth. Fun, sure, but it’s truly incredible how the influx of AI hasn’t been used to create a more efficient way to distribute resources irl

Tech bros are a scourge on humanity and I truly wish for nothing but the worst for them

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 25 points 6 months ago

They need this shit to take off and become a growth industry, they're running out of places to put their money. Blockchain hype is dead and this is the new hotness, so everyone is getting on board and selling their bored apes to invest.

[-] AcidLeaves@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

Crypto is back lmao, I think Bitcoin reached all time highs a few months ago

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

Bitcoin is 'back' but no one will ever buy into it the way they did back in 2020, people understand it works like a stock now. I can see it doubling in the next decade, so maybe a better ROI than the market, but I don't see it, but there is no way we are going to see it going to million like people were talking about back in 2020. I could be wrong about that, but the vibes are not there.

[-] PoisonIvy@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 6 months ago

Ironically I am not sure bitcoin ever went anywhere, it's all the bitcoin-likes or whatever that crashed and burned. Remember doge coin? lol

[-] AcidLeaves@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm sure alt coins constantly cycle in and out of popularity like unprofitable tech stocks lol

[-] iByteABit@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Honestly I think it can and will be a revolutionary technology once certain enabling breakthroughs are made that allow it to interact more meaningfully with other systems without human intervention, and creating learning data sets that work for each use case with as minimal error chance as possible.

As always though, it's capitalism that's the real problem not the technology itself. Under socialism, we could be automating absolutely everything, saving up our labour power to deal with other problems and correcting the AI's occasional mistakes, but under capitalism any use case will only be implemented because it's profitable, and all the labour power saved will be wasted in the standing army of the unemployed working class.

Also under capitalism making sure that the AI is safe is very costly so the few of us that have to be sacrificed will be worth it for them to rack in the profits.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

LLMs dont help productivity or coding, all it does is make it easier to generate spam. If anything it hinders productivity as good hours are spent making dumb powerpoints bc some McKinney vampires convinced management to "get out in front of this AI thing"

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

It's funny how AI's top priority is to do all the creative jobs, but no one seems to be in any rush to replace CEOs with AI. CEOs and shareholders alike are super expensive, why not them?

[-] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

unspoken confirmation that CEOs don't actually do anything

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

AI CEOs might actually be better, they might look at the reserve army of labor and calculate "let's put these people to work".

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

Truly incredible how this ______ bullshit is being forced on everyone despite it doing nothing to meaningfully improve people’s lives

evergreen sentence right here

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Never ever listen to tech bros on anything even tech. First we got cryptocurrency, then we get rideshare and food delivery economy, now AI.

None of it meaningfully benefits people's lives

[-] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

Stack Exchange, of which the corporate section is going nuts over AI right now in a bad way, just published a blog article discussing how 15% of AI applications actually make it to the public. In other words, 85% of attempts to make generative AI do anything productive fail so bad they can't be released. We, consumers, are only seeing the top 15% of attempts and those are still so bad.

[-] Des@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

my own opinion is that even to the average person it smells, tastes and looks like another crypto-like scam will guarantee it's going to implode on itself pretty soonish

all the scammy companies will get shaken out, hopefully some shitty rules will be put in place protecting artists, a lot of the bad will will blow over once it's out of sight and it will just become another editing tool for small indie game studios and creators.

the key being people better learn to use it in a subtle manner with the ability to edit outputs by hand or else you will get crucified by anyone that smells lazy unfiltered AI bullshit in art

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

They're already trying to push copyrights and IP on AI. For the regular consumer this will have no meaningful impact.

I can only see AI applications in oppressing workers and surveillance

[-] Des@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

yeah that's already here in it's infancy. can't wait for some "AI algo" to be analyzing all the surveillance footage at my job in real time, especially since they upgraded to HD resolution, and for it to make judgements about who's working consistently and building metrics that we all know will be skewed and also just evil

the only comfort i have is knowing the sheer amount of compute that will be required by even something like that in just the one store i work at and i doubt anyone in the U.S. is going to build a new massive data center for like every 100 workers

but hearing how "AI" is being deployed in europe to criminalize welfare recipients without question makes me think they won't need the compute after all just an excuse to do the ghoul shit and AI is nothing but a great excuse

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago
[-] Des@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

i guess white collar work is easier to monitor so it doesn't surprise me it's first

public facing, physical labor i'm assuming will be a bigger challenge because the AI will have to analyze every second of video recorded. they have rolled out more and more digital hardware supposedly to make our work "easier" but it's just vectors for monitoring us but so far at least the work i do nothing is strapped onto my body quite yet

once the digital tool becomes mandatory and cannot leave your person I assume they can pull all kinds of data from whatever sensors are embedded (like Amazon already does)

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago

Key stroke monitors, I believe that's what they call them. They "measure" the work a person is doing.

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago

we'll have company neighborhoods with company stores and schools, and company hospitals and clinics, etc.

With AI surveillance to monitor us in our daily lives to make sure we are working. If the algorithm determines a necessary downsize then people get kicked out of the company town. lathe-of-heaven

[-] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago
[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago

Any long-winded complaint I have on this website can come down to capitalism bad tbh

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

I don’t count productivity or coding as a net good for what it’s worth

I wouldn't say it's improved this hugely either.

[-] peppersky@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

Pretty sure the last invention to meaningfully improve peoples life was like the washing machine or penicillin

[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

Just by some of these comments, I can honestly see AI being where I split with leftists. Because I could truly give less of a fuck “if it’s here to say whether like it or not” when it seems like most critics/contrarians are purposefully missing the point. It’s just going to further atomize people and that should be enough to oppose it at all costs

We’re seeing the results of what happens when you carefully construct a surveillance state and consequently make revolution a near impossibility. All the AI in the world isn’t going to improve broken infrastructure, inequality, environmental degradation or bigotry so I’m cheering so hard for nature to win out at this point.

Doomerism is honestly the only option lmao

[-] monobot@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

Looks like in the last year AI means "ChatGPT". Which, for me, is just a bit better spell checker and search engine.

People are surprised that they can "communicate" with it, but it is not something that will change the world.

On the other hand Machine Learning and AI are being used all the time and are making jobs more efficient. Examples are computer vision for sorting apples, or machine learning for detecting frauds, counting anything on the drone or satellite images, detecting fires, finding ships illegally hunting wales.

Every industry is using it more and more and is making peoples jobs better, it is not replacing people, but it is doing something we couldn't do before. Example plant count in agriculture, no one was doing it before, but is easy now and helping everyone involved from farmers to sales and helps in optimisation.

All this happens because of hardware improvement, nothing else.

[-] booty@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

a bit better spell checker and search engine.

it's like a search engine except it completely makes up nonsense instead of showing you real things

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

and it came about just after real search engines stopped getting better and started getting worse lol. a real search engine, indexing solely content created by humans, is leagues better than a vibes based search engine that is often feeding on the outputs of other automation and "AI" systems.

So far in the workplace I've mostly heard of it making things worse not better too but I'm sure some people are liking it. Whenever someone I work with breaks out chatgpt they end up with something they don't understand but sounds good on first blush, often revealing deeper flaws only later.

But, if you count non-LLM/GPT machine learning then fine, that stuff has found useful applications, though some of it is more flawed than anyone would like to admit, and I do not think it should be solely trusted to do a lot of important tasks (screening resumes, detecting fraud/plagiarism, etc.) without at least having a lot of failsafes and human oversight where needed.

this post was submitted on 13 May 2024
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