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Could student protesters turn the 2024 election?

Tensions on university campuses, already high as a wave of pro-Palestinian encampment-style protests sweeps the US, got even higher overnight.

The protests, which have seen students pitch tents or occupy buildings at Columbia, Harvard, the University of Pennsylvania and others, began as an effort to get universities to ditch investments in companies which provide weapons and equipment to the Israeli military.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 60 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have friends in their 70s who talk to me about their life experiences here in Canada and what they grew up with. A lot of them were in college during the 1970s so they got to live through the whole Vietnam war era.

They are proud of what students are doing now.

They keep reminding me that their generation helped to stop wars overseas ... and if they did it in the past ... students can do it again.

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, and I think that's why we're seeing such quick and drastic measures being taken against student protesters - too many powerful people know that these protests will be effective if allowed to continue.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Brown has already capitulated. It's just a matter of time.

Never bet against youth.

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Yeah, some of the most effective people are those that don't know the task is "impossible". They figure out a way.

[–] RemembertheApollo@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If the news could get their collective heads out of their asses and stop validating the right wing freakshow by giving them tons of airtime, then yes, students could also potentially sway the election.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm trying to find sources, but I'm pretty sure they cracked own on these protests faster than they did Occupy Wall Street, which took 59 days.

They want this one put down now.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If they sway it, it’ll be to Trump. There is no chance of a third-party candidate getting elected, and Trump’s base will still vote for him even if he’s convicted of all 88 charges. It’s going to be worse for Palestinians, not to mention Ukrainians, Taiwanese, migrants/immigrants, and Americans.

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

I absolutely hate it when news corporations say any form of "here's what you need to know"... What I hear is "here's what we WANT you to know"... And I assume what follows well be mostly bullshit and propaganda

Give me all the information in an unbiased factual way, and let ME decide what I need to know

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Could student protesters turn the 2024 election?

Turn it over to the fascist that is probably collecting the names of arrestees to strip citizenship from & exile from the USA?

If you think this SCotUS won't allow it, you're a fucking moron.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If you think this SCotUS won’t allow it, you’re a fucking moron.

If Trump wins, I don't think it even matters what SCRotUS thinks, he's going to go full-dictator mode and make institutions like that redundant.

He'll try to pretend he will defer to them, but he's a fucking psychopath, so the second one of them even looks at him the wrong way, the entire thing will be burned down for Trump's benefit. Leopards eating faces and all that, you know.

[–] Beetlejuice001@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 years ago

Just like the Arab Spring, this is the American Spring. The youth will Win and many more concessions will be made than solely Israeli issues. It’s why they’re desperately freaking out

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Bidens response to the protests will probably lose him the election. It seems like he's trying to lose to trump.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ahh, the old "let's underestimate the largest demographic of legal adults" strat.

Let's see if it pays off.

[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm confused. Are you saying college students represent the largest demographic of legal adults? Because I don't think that is correct.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No, 18-22 year olds do. Usually.

Just because an 18-22 year old isn't enrolled in a college doesn't mean they won't go to a campus to protest.

[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait, so you are saying that there are more 18-22 year olds than everybody else aged 23 and older? That also does not sound correct.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There are MANY different sub groups of adults aged 23+. It doesn't sound at all like they're lumping 23-year olds with 93-year olds..

[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I hope that is the case and that I am just confused with how things were worded.

I still don't know who the "largest demographic of legal adults" is that they referenced, but some mysteries are destined to remain unanswered.

[–] trebuchet@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Sadly that strategy does in fact ordinarily pay off because the young people that make up the largest demographic of legal adults notoriously underperforms when it comes to voting.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

There is a growing movement that don't want to vote this election on purpose as protest... yes I know it's stupid, and I agree.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

https://abc7ny.com/columbia-university-protests-protesters-occupy-hamilton-hall-hours-after-encampment-deadline/14744812/

"Police sources say most of the protesters arrested were not Columbia students, but rather "mostly professionals.""

So if students aren't even the ones protesting, how can they possibly turn an election? 🤔

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Could student protesters turn the 2024 election?

All it will do is make the youth stay home. They will see both parties as the corporate-owned jack-booted thugs that they are, and they'll decline to vote for either party.

Democrats, as always, will blame the voters for their own shortcomings with their own voting base. If they lose they will also spend a lot of time asserting, without evidence, that actually the youth turned out in droves for Trump, and it's all their fault. All while they hop on jets to get out of the fucking country before The Trump Purge starts, because they don't actually care how the outcome affects us, the citizens.

They already showed us once they won't actually stand in the way of a coup. The Democrats may as well be the Uvalde cops, sitting outside the school while Trump shoots up everybody inside.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Democrats, as always, will blame the voters for their own shortcomings with their own voting base. If they lose they will also spend a lot of time asserting, without evidence, that actually the youth turned out in droves for Trump, and it’s all their fault. All while they hop on jets to get out of the fucking country before The Trump Purge starts, because they don’t actually care how the outcome affects us, the citizens.

When I read this, it feels like you came to this conclusion by studying a cork board with pushpins and red string tying disparate ideas together to try to form one simple answer that explains everything. Like most of the times people do that, ts so far outside of being even possibly true because of all the logical leaps you have to make you end up sounding paranoid and crazy.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What office are you running for?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Wow. Big dreams eh. Well, good luck!