This assumes workers own the means of production.
Under capitalism, boss tells all the workers to get fucked.
That which ought to be is not influenced by what is. It's true that worker control over the means of production is preferable to capitalism, but neither scenario here actually requires it. In fact, if the economy is fully automated, it would imply that the means of production couldn't be owned by the workers, since there wouldn't be any. That's how you get post-scarcity space communism. Socialism would ensure the longevity and existence of an arrangement that results in automation leading to better lives for everyone rather than human extinction. However, I'm beginning to suspect that with the time frame we're working with, aiming for socialism to the detriment of achieving any such arrangement might be a serious misplay on our part. Of course, that opens the possibility for humanity to be subjugated by an oppressive regime of immortal cyborg oligarchs. Even so, this horrifying possibility still preserves the opportunity for rebellion and revolution to set things aright whereas extinction would be ultimate defeat.
You just accidentally described both The Dune Universe, and The Warhammer 40K Universe.
Yay, a robot took over my job! Now I am free to closely monitor it until I stop caring about the mistakes!
Edit: And get fired!
Closely monitor it for less pay!
If I have no job, I have no money.
Who's going to buy the stuff these robots are building?
The search for short term profits doesn't give a fuck
That's next quarter's problem
it's a monster and no one is in control of it. it must be destroyed.
Other rich people. Robots will just stop making $10k cars and start making yachts. Rich people will just keep the game going between themselves.
If people don't have money, people can't buy the goods being produced, demand will plummet and supply will skyrocket leading to the logical conclusion that a UBI is necessary to supplement life in an automated world. If that doesn't happen, I Guess revolution?
Automate your job but don't tell your boss.
Automate, but maje sure you take ownership of the production and get paid accordingly. Your tip is usually the best way to accomplish it.
unless you can spin it into a business to business service that you can sell after leaving the company to many more and paid more than your job's salary.
Woah, that's dangerous thinking! Why don't we bring back house-servants instead to give all of these filthy poors Gainful Employment(tm)?
Or…we could say “fuck the poors, my house servant will be a robot”.
To be fair though I think that the really rich will find another way to use us for their amusement.
Well, they have robots for the actual tasks, the human employees are just there so they have someone to lord over.
Capitalism be like "NOPE! NOT TODAY! NOT EVER! YOU WILL WORK UNTIL YOU DIE OR YOU WILL DIE WHILE SOMEONE ELSE DOES YOUR WORK!"
everyone here should look at the Venus Project. We keep struggling to understand how automation makes sense in a capitalist society. SPOILER: it doesn't. The entire system has to be re-imagined or we perish and the owners flourish (without us).
Yeah the owners are always going to get the labor as cheap as possible. There is no way you'll get profits from a. Company that literally doesn't employ you.
In the right hand pic the person doesn't work for the company. Why does the pic imply they do?
If a company is fully automated and has no workers do they pay everyone? Lol
If corporations cared more about people and less about money this may just work.
Until there is no longer a massive bill to start a company this is a pipe dream. Who's name is the mortgage under is all you have to ask before the model breaks down...
We should tax every company the equivalent of all the workers' salaries (adjusted for modern cost of living) they automate out of a job and use the money to fund a UBI.
Many inventions created to "free people" ended up landing them with expectations to work even harder with their newfound "free time"—and they ended up being pigeon-holed into more limited jobs. This is especially true for women as appliances were created to help free them from domestic duties, but they have been landed into still doing those and working full-time or more.
this could be reality right now if we overthrew the owners. who keeps the owners in power? the conservative right. property is an unalienable right to them. what can we do? destroy the conservative right by any means necessary.
If you look throughout history, the amount of things done because they had to be is infinitessimal compared to things done for desire
Gotta look into robot maintenance now.
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