Stop trying to divide the working class against itself.

We are all working class.

Look. A lot of people are sick of what looks an awful lot like bullshit. We've seen what liberal politics gets us. We see that the victories of the past were won in spite of liberal moderates, rather than with their cooperation. If you find more people taking hard line stances, maybe it is self defense against being dragged into mealy mouthed excuses about why we have to vote for leaders who support genocides.

Don't worry about getting banned. You didn't post on the .ml instances after all! ;)

Seriously though, you're not crazy. My advice is to not get emotionally invested in any of those types of interactions. If they're being too stupid for you, just block them. You're mental wellbeing will thank you for it.

The difference is that revolutions HAVE happened throughout history, and have been successful.

Comparing a political act that has historical precedent to a bible story with no basis in fact is probably the most flaccid “both sides” centrist argument I’ve ever heard.

Wild to me that people actually think liberal democracy isn't authoritarian, it is literally the dictatorship of the bourgiosie

• “voting for Biden is tantamount to fascism”

I've been hearing substantial amounts of "If you're not voting for Biden then you're implicitly endorsing Fascism". Perhaps this is just reflexive push-back?

• “the concept of an assigned gender, or even an assigned name, at birth is transphobic”

If you've ever actually dealt with babies before - with one particular anatomical difference that makes changing a diaper more exciting - there's not much about them that screams "gender" until parents make a big show of color-coding. And there's definitely a lot of goofy phrenology-tier bullshit that goes into "Blue is For Boys and Pink is for Girls".

There's definitely a degree of transphobia that goes into people who are insecure about their boy baby wearing girl colors. And I've seen quite a few dime-story psychiatrists insist that infants can be "turned" gay based on insufficiently gendered living spaces or treatments. The most consistently crazy claim I've seen is that when male babies are breast fed for too long, they become "sissified", which can range from becoming cis-homo to trans-hetero depending on who you ask.

It occurred to me just now that these interactions reminded me of nothing so much as an evangelical Christian

Well, let's maybe take a step back and first ask which one of these people are endorsing the bombing of an abortion clinic.

It's of course possible to just be opposed to the meat grinder that is modern society without requiring me to be some kind of revolutionary?

And I would raise the argument that the vast majority of "leftists" are like that and are not actually revolutionary because most people can't be bothered to be revolutionary. It's hard work and even if you succeed, then you have to do more work.

I'm quite happy for a government to exist, I just want it to be a good one. I'm not even asking for a Star Trek utopia, just not actively evil. That'll do for now.

way to present a big strawman, but what can we expect from liberals still clinging to american exceptionalism.