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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

Please post one top-level comment per complaint about Lemmy. You can reply with ideas or links to existing GitHub issues that could address the complaints. This will help identify both common complaints and potential solutions.

I believe there are a large number of feature requests on Lemmy's GitHub page, making it difficult for developers to prioritize what's truly important to users. I propose creating a periodic post on Lemmy asking users to list their complaints and suggestions. This way, developers can better understand the community's biggest pain points and focus their efforts accordingly. The goal is to provide constructive feedback so developers can prioritize the most pressing issues.

Please keep discussion productive and focused on specific problems you've encountered. Avoid vague complaints or feature wishes without justification for why they are important.

Here is a summary of all the complaints from the previous post from six months ago. It's interesting to see how many issues have been solved and whether or not developers value user feedback.

spoiler• Instance-agnostic links (links that don't pull you into a different instance when clicked) • Ability to group communities into a combined feed, similar to multireddits • Front page algorithm shows too many posts from the same community in a row, including reposts • Need to separate NSFW and NSFL posts • Basic mod tools • Proper cross-posting support • Ability to view upvoted posts • Post tagging/flairs and search by flair • Better permalink handling for long comment chains • Combine duplicate posts from different instances into one • Allow filtering/blocking by regex patterns • Avatar deletions not federating across instances • Option to default to "Top" comment sort in settings • Migration of profile (posts, comments, upvotes, favs, etc.) between instances • Mixed feed combining subscribed/local/all based on custom ratios • Categories of blocklists (language, NSFW, etc) • Group crossposts to same post as one item • Feedback for users waiting for admin approval
• Propose mixed feed merging subscribed/local/all feeds • Ability to subscribe to small/niche communities easier • Reduce duplicate crossposts showing up • Scroll to top when clicking "Next" page • User flair support • Better language detection/defaults for communities • Ability to subscribe to category "bundles" of similar meta-communities • RSS feed support • Option to turn off reply notifications • Easier way to subscribe across instances • Default to "Subscribed" view in community list • Fix inbox permalinks not navigating properly • API documentation in OpenAPI format • Notification badges should update without refresh • Single community mode for instances • Reduce drive-by downvoting in small communities • More powerful front page sorting algorithm

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[-] Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 83 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Probably the userbase so far. Love the platform. The political stuff on here especially seems like it comes from people who've never been laid or been able to hold a serious conversation in public.

[-] yoyolll@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

I think there’s a lot of self selection going on. Most people who migrated here did it based on principles (or a persecution complex), so of course they will have lots of political opinions, often extreme. Frankly, it’s getting a little tiring seeing it everywhere. Even on gaming subs it seems like every other post results in a discussion about the evils of capitalism.

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Even on gaming subs it seems like every other post results in a discussion about the evils of capitalism.

I think it depends on community, I avoid all .ml ones for that reason. Don't get me wrong, I could go on about evils of capitalism for hours if prompted but the real issue is that most of the user base is 13 years old either in their actual age or mentally so you're seeing same performative cynicism over and over again. I'm also getting a feeling that over last 3-4 months it got much worse.

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[-] Graphy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Yeah I’m always glad that certain communities are thriving on here but they tend to bleed over into every single thread.

I find it most annoying when someone’s just casually venting and someone else comes in swinging. I get that it’s especially hard on the internet to tell if someone’s venting or looking for solutions.

Like at this point I think it’s safe to say everyone on Lemmy has seen the same pro Linux, fuck cars, and fuck capitalism posts a million times. I think we do without one post dogpiling on some poor dude if they’re like “man traffic sucked the big one today!”

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[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

They do seem to be confidently incorrect often.

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[-] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

That's the Internet as a whole.

[-] infinitepcg@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The political ideas you can find on Reddit are much more diverse. There is usually at least some pushback against some of the most deranged statements.

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[-] 1984@lemmy.today 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Politics is always the worst communities because people are there to be little keyboard warriors and fight for their cause.

Lemmy becomes 100 times better if you don't subscribe to politics.

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[-] ZeroDrek@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago

My only complaint is not enough people commenting on / interacting with posts. I’m guilty of it myself (I was also mostly a lurker on Reddit) so I’m not trying to blame anyone but Lemmy often feels like a ghost town.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think it’s grown a massive amount in 6 months. Back then I would say that was true. But now? Most posts have plenty of comments. Each month the number of average posts grow. It’s gotten to the point that 50% of the time there are so many comments I don’t read them all. We’re getting there.

[-] Splatterphace@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

Most of the stuff I'm interested in has either no community or a dead one

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[-] Fake4000@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago

Lemmy lives to rip reddit to pieces and share any bad news about them.

I didn't leave an ex to keep being reminded a out her. Just move on and share anything new.

[-] laxe@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I notice this much less frequently as time went on. Reddit had the same trend in Digg era.

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[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 month ago

Multi communities. They would be a big deal IMO. If you could have multiple saved into a list so that you could check different feeds depending on what you’re interested in, it would be much better. Combine that with the scaled sort (as well as the others), and you’re managing your feed very well IMO.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 14 points 1 month ago

kbin currently has a "collections" feature which does this.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

AFAICT, it's been something on lemmy's radar for a long while too. I get the sense the devs never worked out how they wanted to do it or maybe were a bit too ambitious in what they wanted from the feature and so it was kinda left by the way side, unfortunately. If I were to ever start contributing to lemmy it'd probably be the first thing I try to pick up.

[-] MuAraeOracle@real.lemmy.fan 11 points 1 month ago

Alternatively community federation, such that a community can be spread over multiple servers.

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

Its not really a complaint, but more of a direction I hope we go with this.

I think we can do much MUCH better than reddit in terms of new features, and I don't think 'copying reddit' is the way to go to guide development.

The number one I'm looking for: some kind of dynamic linking that is an improvement to cross posting.

Cross posting or repeated posting of the same news story was already an issue under Reddit, but the nature of the fediverse/ federated platforms is that a lot of the same shit gets posted over and over and over again. So some way to collapse or considate threads/ conversations around this; I think with the RSS feed nature of things it should be possible. Maybe its like a different style view or a bot we could add..

But spreading a conversation that might have generated 120+ comments into 16 threads of like 2-3 comments; it really breaks up the value of those conversations (which is more than the sum of its parts). In this way, the networked/ federated nature of the platform works against us.

So I dont know what the answer is, but in reddit we had megathreads. I think thats over kill. But it might be something to think about and ideate on, because spreading the conversation out inot many small threads really lowers the value of the individual conversations.

[-] russjr08@bitforged.space 34 points 1 month ago

This isn't a problem of Lemmy itself in terms of the software, so I'm not sure it qualifies... But, I find that Lemmy still has the same problem of Reddit where if you say something that the majority of users disagree with, prepare to be torn apart in the comments. And I do not just mean by getting corrected on something you said being factually incorrect, I mean more of a "your opinion is wrong because..."

For example, any discussion revolving around Linux (and let me just prepend this by saying I am a Linux user), if you happen to prefer using Windows be prepared to be told all of the reasons why you have to use Linux instead. And that's usually tame compared to what I've seen on other subjects.

Obviously there are cases where yeah, you absolutely deserve to be torn a new one in the extreme cases when someone is actually being truly vile, such as trying to advocate for the harm of someone/a group of people - but the "extremes" are not what I'm really referring to here.

I've blocked a lot of users that while I've had no interaction with them, I see how they are clearly engaging in, let's just say, bad faith with others.

In terms of software-specific issues, I can't say that I really have had a lot of problems with Lemmy itself as of recently. As an instance owner, I used to have a lot of weird (what seemingly appeared to be, at least) random federation issues, but I haven't seen any federation problems in a while now. Though just today I swear I submitted a comment somewhere, and its just poof not there - not even locally, but I'm chalking that one up to something I've done (whether a misclick, or I'm just hallucinating as badly as an LLM) rather than an actual issue.

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Not enough people have left Reddit for it, mostly niche hobby groups. Which means sometimes I end up back on Reddit briefly to read something or more rarely post/reply.

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[-] ptz@dubvee.org 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Some of those exist already with 3rd party UIs. I'm the dev of Tesseract, and it supports these, specifically:

  • Instance-agnostic links (links that don't pull you into a different instance when clicked)
  • Ability to group communities into a combined feed
  • Basic mod tools (as good as they can get with the current limitations of the API)
  • Better permalink handling for long comment chains (Takes you right to the comment vs parent)
  • Combine duplicate posts from different instances into one (matches on post title and/or URL vs just URL with most UIs)
  • Option to default to "Top" comment sort in settings
  • Allow filtering/blocking by regex patterns (Can filter based on keyword, though I'm working on adding regex as a filtering option)
  • Scroll to top when clicking "Next" page (not really an issue with Tesseract, but pains have been taken to make sure you land back where you left off when clicking into and back out of a post)
  • Easier way to subscribe across instances (can browse other instances and automatically resolve unknown communities and subscribe)
  • Notification badges should update without refresh

The rest are all great ideas, but need API support.

Not trying to plug my UI, specifically, but just using it as a reference for your wishlist. Those are all thing that can be done with the current API without waiting on Lemmy devs to add support. Granted, some of those would be better if the API were handling them versus the frontend, but I was working with what I had lol.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

I can’t follow a user, only communities.

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[-] HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ever since reading about the challenge of deleting an image from your profile, a GUI for that. It should not only be an API call, not should you have to contact your instance admin to do it. It should be completely self-service from your profile page.

[-] loki@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago

Hiding read posts means they're now lost (when you’re logged in) if you didn't save the link somewhere. Can't find it after a day and now you have to check it on incognito.

But if you don't hide posts you've already read, you end up with the same posts on your feed.

it's a very small nitpick though. having new posts load every time I visit lets me see a lot of new content, I wouldn't have seen otherwise.

I hope some app devs can put up a section for "read posts" locally so instances aren't overwhelmed.

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[-] Sneptaur@pawb.social 19 points 1 month ago

It tends to be a little slower than mainstream social media, but I don’t expect that to be comparable nor do I expect it to improve quickly.

The user base is too small.

[-] j4k3@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

~~I can't move my comments and history with me to another instance; only my settings and subscriptions follow.~~

Sublinks. You whine and make excuses but didn't make pull requests with good code, and now you are trying to tank the largest instance. Very Spez move of you.

I want nothing to do with your casus belli

[-] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
  • Moving user profile to a new instance #1985: Provide the ability for users to migrate their account and all associated data (posts, comments, moderation actions, saved posts, etc.) from one Lemmy instance to another. This would allow users to move freely between instances without losing their online identity, history, and credibility built up over time on a previous instance.

It's crazy when I see this super popular issues closed without completion by the main devs. It makes me feel like they don't care at all about user feedback.

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[-] ByteMe@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I think it would be nice if same communities from different instances could be merged in same way. Like there are 2 android communities.

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[-] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Right of the bat: lemmygrad, hexbear and .ml other than that lack of userbase, lack of interaction in certain communities. Also some good communites are hosted on .ml and some good users there so I can't outright block that instance.

[-] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I stopped using Lemmy due to instances blocking each other. I wanted to view content from specific instances, but none of the instances between the most popular ones allowed me to see all the content. I had to create multiple accounts, which made navigating between them cumbersome. This experience was more frustrating for me than any issues I've encountered on Reddit. I believe users should have more freedom to choose the content they see without having to create their own instance or manage multiple accounts. I was hopeful that this would change with user instance blocking implementation, but I feel validated in my decision after seeing that it hasn't.

[-] Blaze@dormi.zone 19 points 1 month ago

Don't lemm.ee and sh.itjust.works have a very low number of defederations?

[-] Ashtear@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago

Yep. I'm on lemm.ee and I don't even think about what content I might be missing.

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[-] 1984@lemmy.today 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Lemmy.today is federating with 100% of the fediverse. It's a small instance with about 90 daily users but that's an advantage, not a downside.

If I want, I can go read what tankies are writing or any other thing that people want to be protected from. I just like to make my own decisions what I should read.

With Lemmy 19, users can block entire instances themselves also, so you can make sure you block whatever you don't want to read yourself.

But I'm a techie with strong opinions about freedom online and all that. Most people don't care. :)

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[-] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Wow, is that part of the reason why my feed sucks so bad? Seeing the same kinda stuff over and over again? I think I understand both sides of this argument. We've got users who are complaining of having their experience restricted with means outside of their control. They feel that perhaps defederation is a heavy-handed approach to this issue when a scapel will do. i.e. blocking and muting.

Then, we have those who advocate for a safe fediverse and view defederation as a means to that end. Or likely, from a more pragmatic perspective, they want to protect their own local instances and communities. I'm sure they're thinking, "Dislike these restrictions? Too bad, find another instance." And finding a new instance would solve your issues, for the most part. This is a tough problem I can imagine, and it sure does make for a less streamlined experience.

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[-] spiderman@ani.social 13 points 1 month ago

User and Post flairs. Post flairs is helpful to me (in reddit) when I want to find posts that are similar. Like having a flair named "Episode Discussions" for communities like !anime@ani.social can help me to go through anime episode discussions threads. This is just my own use case and there might be better use cases for post flair.

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[-] Atlas48@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 month ago

I wish they'd port reddit's old multireddit feature over, and make those lists shareable.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Indexing is a bitch. If I try to find this post again in the future I wouldn't be able to find it. It was much easier to do so on reddit.

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[-] electricprism@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

Upvote/downvote system turns content to a "popularity contest".

There is no way to categorize content by " funny", "insightful", " serious", "scientific", " helpful", etc...

Steam is a good example of this done right, comments can be given Trophies, misskey does Emoji's IIRC

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[-] Salix@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ever since the Reddit exodus, so many people joined Lemmy who just assumes everyone lives in the US.

"My rent is only $----/mo". In what currency? A lot of countries use $.

I noticed that sometimes comments asking "What currency?" or "What country?" gets downvoted even though the original post / comment isn't obvious that they are talking specifically about US :(

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[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

No organizational hierarchy like Usenet, and no tags or hashtags , so there’s no simple way to block huge swaths of content you’re not interested in — like sports, or politics.

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[-] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

Multiple communities with the same topic across multiple instances, gets kinda confusing and makes it harder to block ones you aren't interested in

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[-] Mr_Mofu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Im aware that its likely more of an app issue, but Universal GIF and Video Standartification is a must at this point. There is literally nothing more annoying than that and I genuinely see it as Lemmys current biggest hurdle. We can't be a proper site or competition to other simular sites if something like GIFs and Videos basically never work properly.

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