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Iran has struck Israel.

previous preambleThe continuing fall of the remains of the British Empire is pretty entertaining from the outside: an archaic royal family that is seemingly being smote with disease by God itself for their past crimes; a navy that virtually no longer functions, ramming into foreign ports and under constant repair; and an economy that cannot seem to stop sputtering, fucked whether they're in the EU or outside it. Watching the impacts on people from the inside is a little more worrying, though.

A fifth of the population is in poverty, including nearly a third of all children. These figures have barely shifted since the Labour government in the early 2000s, aside from a decreasing poverty rate for pensioners. Actually, poverty hasn't substantially shifted since Margaret Thatcher. Before her, the poverty rate was around 14%, but her catastrophic policies caused a major increase, and poverty levels since then are still 50% higher than over 50 years ago, because neoliberal economic policy since then has not fundamentally changed. Parties and corporations have impoverished the usual vulnerable groups, such as large families, minority ethnic groups (including half of Pakistani and Bangladeshi households!) and disabled people. These differences are also regional, with the North more impoverished than the richer Southeast (but some of the poorest boroughs are in London, so it's a complex pattern).

With Corbyn's defeat in 2019 mere months before the pandemic began, the Labour Party shifted back towards the right, with left-wingers purged from the party if they did not kowtow to Keir Starmer. This leaves us with a situation where the only substantial difference between the two parties would be on social policy, but it goes without saying that economic policy is the overwhelming factor that determines if minorities can have a decent life. Worker-oriented movements since then have been largely not under the umbrella of major party leaderships, such as the Don't Pay movement in late 2022 that arose in the wake of dramatically rising energy prices where 3 million people vowed to not pay them (which did lead to results).

Most notably recently is the major upset in the constituency of Rochdale - the victory of George Galloway - who is the leader of the Workers Party of Britain, which describes itself as both socialist and socially conservative. This took place both in the context of aforementioned economic troubles, as well as anger over Israel's genocide of Gaza in the British population, especially in British Muslims. It remains to be seen how much of this is an isolated event, especially as Corbyn has, understandably, refused to collaborate with Galloway due to his socially conservative stances. The UK general election will be held at some point within the next 9 months or so, and might well be a shitshow depending on what happens domestically and geopolitically before then; parallels to the current American electoral shitshow with increasing anger over Biden are pretty apparent. The Conservatives are quite likely to lose given 14 years of uninspired rule if current polling is correct, but it truly is a race to the bottom.


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Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
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Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

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https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
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https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Of course on the one day I'm not on Hexbear, which is rare, shit happens. yea

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[–] ziggurter@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Once more even even the Clinton Nonsense Network is calling Israel on its lies: Dying for a bag of flour: Videos and eyewitness accounts cast doubt on Israel’s timeline of deadly Gaza aid delivery

Choice Exceprts

We are now under siege, a tank is beside us and it’s shelling

Many said they were undeterred by the bullets, believing that if they weren’t killed attempting to get the flour, they would die of hunger instead.

CNN’s analysis of dozens of videos from the night and testimonies from eyewitnesses’ casts doubt on Israel’s version of events. The evidence, reviewed by forensic and ballistic experts, indicated that automatic gunfire began before the IDF said the convoy had started crossing through the checkpoint and that shots were fired within close range of crowds that had gathered for food.

Al Za’anoun, who was at the scene and witnessed the incident, said the chaos and confusion that led to people being hit by the trucks only started once Israeli soldiers began shooting.

[the limited and edited drone footage] shows just how difficult it would have been to fire with any degree of accuracy at what the IDF described as “suspects” among the tightly packed people surrounding the convoy.

Eyewitnesses told CNN that they had started to gather in anticipation of the arrival of food – aid convoys often travel at night to avoid being inundated by crowds en route – but that the trucks hadn’t even crossed the threshold of the checkpoint when Israeli tanks started shooting.

In a video recorded by eyewitness Belal Mortaja, which was shared directly with CNN, gunfire can be heard ringing out and people can be seen running away, urging others to flee, warning of a tank. The video was recorded at 4:22 a.m., seven minutes before the IDF said the convoy had crossed over into northern Gaza.

Abu Watfa, the 27-year-old, told CNN that he started filming just after he heard gunfire. The video’s metadata showed that it was recorded at 4:28 a.m., two minutes before the IDF said it fired warning shots.

the bursts indicated heavy automatic gunfire at 600 rounds per minute.

Another survivor, Hamouda Zamil, told CNN that he was shot at after he was given a bag of flour from the convoy. “As soon as I carried the bag of flour and started to walk, they (the IDF) shot at me,” he said. “I started to ask people to help me, they (the people) left me.”

Dr. Amjad Aliwa, a physician at Al-Shifa, told CNN he had gone to Al Rashid Street to get food for his family...was shot in his left thigh. He said he quickly bandaged his leg before returning to the hospital to provide treatment for the many wounded who had been taken there.

Ahmed said the charity [Ummah Welfare Trust] had been successful in delivering aid to southern Gaza before, but this was the first time they had attempted to go to the north. “We were very, very excited and happy that finally we have gone through,” he said.

That joy was short-lived. Still, Ahmed said the tragedy would not deter the team from trying again because they have “no other choice.”

“People are either going to die from starvation, from the famine, from the desperate situation, or they will be killed by indiscriminate shooting or targeted killings,” he said.

I think even the suspicion that a lot of us leftists seemed to have of some IDF soldier getting spooked and then them going on a berserk rampage was far too generous. The facts here seem to me to paint the picture of an absolute, cold-blooded ambush. Israel "finally" lets aid into northern Gaza, and it's literally just as bait.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You can usually tell how right-wing a country’s population is by how batshit their reactions to anything China-related is

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago (11 children)

how come not a single left party in europe far away from russia makes an argument "nobody can attack us, fuck your defense spending". I can sort of get like baltics and poland, but why spanish or french parties (british are cursed by definition) not say we will spend 0 on defense, you can donate to our military through charity (form attached)

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[–] puff@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (4 children)

From the BBC. If Israel doesn't do anything stupid this might be over.

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[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (18 children)

This is kind of a silly question but are these drones/missiles from Iran actually being launched from Iranian soil, then flying over two countries to hit israel? Is that like, a thing you can do? That feels illegal (not that I care).

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[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From Middle East Eye:

  • US President Joe Biden reportedly told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the US will not take part in any counteroffensive against Iran
  • Following the Iranian attack, Biden is also urging congress to pass a bill that includes over $14 bln in security aid to Israel

both-sides

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[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Pro-western analysts act like Iran is unaware the Iron Dome exists, example #334:

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The Danish Navy shooting down a Yemeni drone from a month ago:
https://nitter.poast.org/Malrahabi6/status/1777138994796441786

The thing I can't get over is them yelling out random English phrases. Is this how Danes talk irl?

its how every European talks in the age of the anglo-centric internet. our guttural Frankenstein language has become the Latin of the 21st century

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Biden is currently meeting with his national security team at the White House

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVgAc_oJ6DY

Zizek is such a social-fascist joke. "I think we must do everything to stop Russia"

Who's WE motherfucker? You identify with the western imperialists?

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[–] assyrian@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

UPDATE - White House now says Biden not to speak.

is he asleep already, or is there not enough time to get him out of the cryochamber and drug him for him to seem alive?

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Rows of abandoned ambulances because the Zionist drivers all fled to some bomb shelter:
https://nitter.poast.org/revolutionaryem/status/1779343261204918586

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[–] eduds6@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The talk on some specific amateur us-biased "analysis spaces" in the Internet is "iran did this to save face and hit nothing". Please explain to me then how are you able to record stuff flying above historical and key buildings and be having a success rate on intercepting things? Curiously and with no coincidence, the same who say this believe the Israeli army is amazing and the referential NATO army, that Russian an Ukrainian armies are weak, and that Iran has a weak army.

How to take it seriously? Anyone who is informed by analysis, including from military analysts, be them amateur or from some military who is not completely submissive to NATO bullshit propaganda talk and who knows how wars and military strategy and tactics work for more than 10 years, how missiles hit things, how air raids happen, and how propaganda in the Web and in TV works and live in a relatively non-natosphere Web, know that this has likely been controlled by a propaganda harm reduction effort inside Israel, the ue and the US to reduce the number of hits which really happened and the number of people killed, and to pave way for media.

Wikipedia or whatever other liberal and Anglocentric entity to fabricate the real story (or, historical revisionism in the present). For no coincidence, they did the exact same propaganda tactics in Syria, Ukraine and against Hamas. This trick ain't gonna work for everyone for the fourth time, it didn't even work for the second.

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[–] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago (4 children)

REALLY picked the wrong day to start off my day with the plan to put the phone away and spend more time with the kids…

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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

finkelstein-lambaste Mr. Borelo moment

Talking about getting cucked by 15 inch dicks in the middle of your “research” on Israeli laws is crazy

https://twitter.com/schizarella/status/1775901709199651285

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[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago
[–] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago (9 children)

CBS News live stream is reporting the iron dome has been 100% effective and no drones or missiles hit the ground.

One report of an Israeli boy being injured by shrapnel from an interceptor missiles.

CBS points out most were targeting the Negev which is unpopulated, highlighting that Iran was clearly not targeting civilians.

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[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Video of a resistance ambush on an IOF deployment from planning to execution, with subtitles (~8 min)

https://streamable.com/zgjee0

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

tl;dr of what happened for people who don't want to read 1000+ comments:
https://nitter.poast.org/hassanhamiehh1/status/1779297062120505744#m

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Lula da Silva on Twitter: "There are people who don't believe that deforestation and burning are damaging planet Earth. And many people don't take seriously what maintaining forests means for maintaining the quality of life in this enormous home that is Earth."

"And we can't get away from that. There are even billionaires (Elon Musk) trying to build rockets to find something in space, but there isn't one. He's going to have to learn to live here (on Earth). He's going to have to use his money to help preserve the environment."

The Brazilian Federal Police are preparing the first steps in the investigation into evidence of crimes on Twitter, instigated by entrepreneur Elon Musk.

The first step is to listen to X's representative in Brazil.

The chances of the Senate voting on Moraes' impeachment after the Musk factor are zero and the president of the Senate, Rodrigo Pacheco (Social Democrat Party - Centrist), has no chance of putting Moraes' impeachment on the agenda.

And it's not just a question of the senator's lack of will. The Bolsonarists MPs themselves admit that they are far from amassing the 54 votes needed to remove the magistrate.

So far, those in favor of impeachment total between 30 and 35 senators. This calculation is based on the same parliamentarians who opposed Flávio Dino's (Former Member of the Communist Party) appointment to the Supreme Court in a secret ballot last year.

X representatives in Brazil will be summoned to testify in investigation into Elon Musk

The first step in the Federal Police's investigation into Elon Musk was to add all of the millionaire's Twitter rants, which are considered criminal, to the inquiry launched on Monday.

At any time, the Brazilian Federal Police can raid X's offices in Brazil and arrest any X representative there.

The aim is to preserve the messages so that they can be examined. The PF's next step will be to call the platform's representatives in Brazil to testify.

Among the topics to be discussed during the interrogations will be the businessman's attacks on STF minister Alexandre de Moraes and the platform's actions to release profiles blocked by court order.

Elon Musk can still try to legally appeal these actions. However, they will be judged by the Supreme Court, of which Alexandre de Moraes is a member. And the judges have already guaranteed that they will form a majority against any action by Elon Musk.

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The phone call between Netanyahu and Biden concluded, and Biden reportedly asked Israel not to respond to the Iranian attack directly – Hebrew Media

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[–] Lerios@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (9 children)

local FOX news has on Richard Medhurst somehow to comment on Israel-Iran relations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCT4oUgO5Zw

"He is based"

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[–] assyrian@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (6 children)

it seems like Biden did tell the zionist entity they can't strike Iran, I imagine they'd have already bombed a civilian building in Tehran otherwise. they will still 'retaliate' somehow, probably by killing more Iranians in Syria or Iraq, but that's been going on for a long time anyway.

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[–] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Roughly 50% of the ballistic missiles fired by Iran failed to launch or crashed before reaching their target, WSJ reports.

U.S. officials said Iran launched between 115 and 130 ballistic missiles that targeted Israel.

When asked for more details about those strikes, the officials acknowledged that only about half of them were intercepted successfully.

The rest failed in flight and didn't reach their targets, the officials said.

"So much for the vaunted ballistic-missile capability of Iran," said a U.S. official.

https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1779614655347830988

lmao

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

"So much for the vaunted ballistic-missile capability of Iran," said a U.S. official.

This is literally indistinguishable from a redditor. We are in Reddit hell. Though, on the other hand, I think I prefer this to competent diplomats and officials. If they're at the point where they're doing epic twitter takedowns instead of, y'know, their jobs in trying to take down their adversaries, then that just makes Iran's job a little easier. One imagines Hitler tweeting from his bunker about how the USSR's shoddy performance in the first couple years is evidence of socialism's inferiority while his armies of barely-trained young men are being obliterated in the streets of Berlin.

I suppose it's the problem with actually being a competent military power, unlike Israel - crowds of dead civilians are very hard to hide, but if it's "just" important military officials and classified airbases getting blown up, that's much easier to just censor. Only one of them has a meaningful military purpose and it'll lead to Israel ceasing to exist as it currently does probably within the decade and hopefully within the next year or so

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[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As a white person if someone makes fun of you personally for being white or doing some white shit and you take offense, you're being racist.

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[–] TheBazblue@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just based on vibes alone, it seems like this retaliation has down very little to change the needle at all on people’s opinions. If anything it seems to have largely scared off the remaining liberal hawks.

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[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Air Force secretary is going to go for a ride in an AI-controlled F-16

spoilerU.S. Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall said, during a recent senate hearing on the service’s 2025 budget, that he will fly in one of the F-16s that are being used to test autonomous technology. The flight will reportedly take place later this spring and will allow the service top civilian leader to experience firsthand how the new technology performs in the air.

“I’m going to get a ride in an autonomously flown F-16 later this year,” said Kendall when asked about Collaborative Combat Aircraft by the Senate Appropriations Committee’s defense panel. “There will be a pilot with me who will just be watching, as I will be, as the autonomous technology works. Hopefully neither he or I will be needed to fly the airplane.”

sicko-yes AI has a chance to be a comrade

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (25 children)

Already seeing reports that "Israel's War Cabinet has made the decision to retaliate against Iran"

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Janet Yellen is trying to gather up more countries so they can have a collective complaint about Chinese “overproductivity.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-12/us-set-to-ring-alarm-bells-over-chinese-industry-on-world-stage

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