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These civil rights lawyers (the one being interviewed especially) are total fucking libs. But they seem to know what they're doing in terms of the libshit legal system. They are painting a very bleak picture in terms of the prospects of any legal "justice" for Alex Pretti (and probably also Renee Good, since it's mostly just general stuff about the feds being above the law).

As liberals, I think they fail to take into account that the importance of the law is pretty laughable compared to the political pressure created by direct action. But I think it makes it even more crystal clear that if we don't create a monumental uprising to make something snap, the next steps are that absolutely nothing happens legally. The chances of these ICE fascists getting the Chauvin treatment are probably orders of magnitude less (or, equivalently, will take orders of magnitude more to order up).

What to Know About the Alex Pretti Shooting (with civil rights lawyer Patrick Jaicomo)

Scapegoat near the very top. Interesting choice. Hope no one thinks it's time to turn down the pressure!

Yeah. This sounds like the only thing that's going to work. Practice. Repeat. Make it grow locally, along with the support networks, and spread to other areas organically (not without encouragement, but without trying to push it on everyone, everywhere, all at once, and feeling like the result is a failure). It'd be great if we were ready to do it on a dime, but it just ain't gonna happen.

In the meantime, not sure this changes much?

Pose to a random person the situation that a man tried to help someone who was being attacked, then was knocked down by the attackers himself, surrounded, and brutally beaten (including multiple hits to the face with blunt instruments). Ask whether he would be justified in pulling his gun out and shooting his attackers. Ask whether those attackers would be justified in shooting him in "self-defense".

No, it doesn't change anything. It doesn't matter if the gun went off (probably didn't). It doesn't matter whether or not Pretti pulled the gun (though he didn't). It doesn't matter whether he shot at the cops (though he didn't). It doesn't matter how many gunshot wounds he had. There could've been zero. It's straight up murder.

The only reason people are having difficulty with this is that the murders are the modern gestapo. If it does turn out that the gun discharged and suddenly more people have a problem identifying it as a murder (e.g. donkey-brand liberals), it just shows those people were crypto-fascists instead of being the loud and proud kind; they just wanted an excuse to applaud the murder, and hadn't quite found it yet.

I was including that kind of training. It ups their copaganda/PR game, or gives libs more excuses to promote what they do. "Look, he's had sensitivity training. Therefore there must have been a good reason for him to kill that person." Or it'll make them more effective at manipulating us into situations where we are more vulnerable to their violence (e.g. getting more information out of us).

No amount of training is going to make cops less bad; less murderous; less repressive. It's all just more tools for them to whip out to use when they feel like it, how they feel like it, and when it helps them be more effective at the stuff they actually want to do.

I'd much rather have a COMPLETELY UNTRAINED cop standing across from me than one with a single hour of any kind of training you can possibly describe. We need to stop educating our mortal enemies. It only makes them stronger.

Training just makes them more effective murderers. Training is one of the first things that should be stripped from them (all cops, in fact).

Just a few more to go....

Wow. Even Hasan Piker is dropping some of his giganto-brained liberal takes and supporting people arming themselves at this point. (He also spends half the video screaming about how he wants a "strong Democratic Party", but I'm just talking about the guns & action bit here, and how he's at least incrementally dropping the liberalism.)

Alex Pretti was Murdered. (And Democrats are doing NOTHING) | Hasanabi Reacts

It's probably about time to start brandishing weapons.

The things they are accusing us of are the things they have good reason to fear us actually doing.

Wow. Higher and higher barriers just about every day. We're firmly in "designated free-speech zone" territory now, and folks aren't doing anything about it? We have learned absolutely nothing.

Well, it's not "obstruction" this time, you turds. Bathroom breaks is unofficial business.

The result was 334 votes in favor to 324 against, with 11 abstentions.

If everyone who abstained had voted against, it would have failed by exactly one vote (335 vs 334). That's funny.