this post was submitted on 31 Mar 2024

52 points (88.2% liked)

News

36943 readers

2241 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil

Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.

2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.

Obvious biased sources will be removed at the mods’ discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted separately but not to the post body. Sources may be checked for reliability using Wikipedia, MBFC, AdFontes, GroundNews, etc.

3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.

Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.

4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source. Clickbait titles may be removed.

Posts which titles don’t match the source may be removed. If the site changed their headline, we may ask you to update the post title. Clickbait titles use hyperbolic language and do not accurately describe the article content. When necessary, post titles may be edited, clearly marked with [brackets], but may never be used to editorialize or comment on the content.

5. Only recent news is allowed.

Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.

6. All posts must be news articles.

No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials, videos, blogs, press releases, or celebrity gossip will be allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis. Mods may use discretion to pre-approve videos or press releases from highly credible sources that provide unique, newsworthy content not available or possible in another format.

7. No duplicate posts.

If an article has already been posted, it will be removed. Different articles reporting on the same subject are permitted. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.

8. Misinformation is prohibited.

Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.

9. No link shorteners or news aggregators.

All posts must link to original article sources. You may include archival links in the post description. News aggregators such as Yahoo, Google, Hacker News, etc. should be avoided in favor of the original source link. Newswire services such as AP, Reuters, or AFP, are frequently republished and may be shared from other credible sources.

10. Don't copy entire article in your post body

For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

JonsJava@lemmy.world

gedaliyah@lemmy.world

little_cow@lemmy.world

In Key Bridge collapse, Baltimore lost a piece of its cultural identity (www.independent.co.uk)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

20 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Generations of working-class Marylanders watched in disbelief this week as an iconic symbol of their maritime culture crumbled into the Patapsco River

Generations of Maryland workers — longshoremen, seafarers, steelworkers and crabbers whose livelihoods depend on Baltimore’s port — watched in disbelief this week as an iconic symbol of their maritime culture crumbled into the Patapsco River.

The deadly collapse of the historic Francis Scott Key Bridge has shaken Baltimore to its core.

“What happened was kind of a travesty,” said Joe Wade, a retired port worker who remembers fishing near the bridge as a child. “I’m not a crier, but ... I got emotional.”

Baltimore was a port long before it was incorporated as a city — and long before the United States declared its independence from Britain. Many of the city’s brick rowhouses were built to house fishermen, dockworkers and sailors. They earned a reputation for being pioneering and tough, unafraid of rough seas and long days.

It’s a cultural identity that persists among modern-day watermen like Ryan “Skeet” Williams, who makes a living harvesting crabs from the Chesapeake Bay.

top 20 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Iconic? It's a generic truss bridge from the 70s.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This confuses me. It doesn't even look that nice. I mean if the Golden Gate or Brooklyn bridges collapsed, I'd be all for a loss of cultural symbols and such. This is sort of like crying over the Huey P in New Orleans.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Damn, that's a fugly bridge. Apparently it's been designated a civil engineering landmark, and that I understand.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I'm surprised. It was surrounded by corruption--Huey P Long, the governor, had two bridges built. Both are named the Huey P Long bridge. He made the one in Baton Rouge (?) low enough that ships can't pass, which ensures that large container ships could never go up the Mississippi and instead have to unload in Louisiana. Also dude had a senator die during his term and never filled it. Last day or so as governor, he appointed himself to be senator and went off to Washington DC. A class act, as you can see.

[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Damn this comment section is a dumpster fire.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

1871 Chicagoans: Get on our level, crybabies.

[+] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

“What happened was kind of a travesty,” said Joe Wade, a retired port worker who remembers fishing near the bridge as a child. “I’m not a crier, but … I got emotional.”

Six men died. But sure, cry over not being able to fish by it anymore.

[–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Don't you think that's an uncharitable analysis? Joe Wade never said anything like what you're suggesting he did, and the journalist wanted to provide supporting context for the headline's claim about a lost piece of Baltimore cultural identity. We also do not have access to the full interview, only a single line of it--Wade could have said something about the workers, only for the journalist to omit it because that is not what the article is about. The interview would have been very different, with different questions and different answers and a different person being interviewed, if the topic had been the people who died rather than the culture of the city.

I know you're capable of better reading comprehension and media literacy than this, and I don't think you hold a personal grudge against Joe Wade, so what's going on in your personal life to make you have such a negative presupposition about the world?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fine, then the journalist is the callous one. One of those two people suggested that the loss of the bridge is a bigger deal than the loss of life. And whichever one of them did so is the one I am criticizing.

[–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

No, no one ever suggested that. That is an entirely new sentence that you made up. The only thing that was said is that a person cried, and that that same person fished by the bridge as a child. People can feel emotions for more than one reason at a time.

For real, what is going on in your personal life?

[–] TequilaMockingbird@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

It is a weird take. There were stories after 9/11 about Sirius the K-9 patrol dog that died in the attacks, but no one was claiming this coverage meant that the dog's life was more important than the many human lives lost. After the initial reporting on the actual events, journalists very often turn to interest stories about very specific aspects and effects of the event. Like, almost every time a major catastrophe happens.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For real, what is going on in your personal life?

Well, you can start here if you're actually interested: https://lemmy.world/post/12194311

You can move on to here: https://lemmy.world/comment/8841531

Then to here: https://lemmy.world/post/13606683

That will take you from January of 2023 to last Wednesday.

But I doubt you're actually interested.

[–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy is small enough that we can care about each other here, man :) I did read it, and man that really fucking sucks. I've been through some similar stuff before, both with severe food aversion and having a narcissistic parent. I understand why you have a negative view of the world right now, and I hope that your circumstances improve. I also hope that you're able to look at the world more charitably regardless of your circumstances, although I think you've got bigger things on your mind right now than emotional growth and that it's totally reasonable for you to prioritize your physical health.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Thank you.

[–] eskimofry@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah people get real defensive about inanimate objects but when some people lose lives it's like their empathy turns into animosity and suddenly culture is more important than lives.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I don't even mind that he's sad about it. It's that he said he cried over it but didn't even mention the men who died. That's just fucking callous.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We can always count on Flying Squid to come in and say something needlessly hateful.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If I am needlessly hateful, please flag me for the moderators as that would violate the community rules.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I owe you an apology. I misread your comment. I may also have confused with someone who’s not so nice.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

No worries.