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[-] sauna7843@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Here is my take on karma. Karma gives users an incentive to post content based more around grabbing attention than quality.

I think it is for the best that karma doesn't exist here as it allows users to post what they feel without an alterior motive such as gaining internet points.

[-] unphazed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

See Unidan for reference

[-] DharkStare@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I kinda wish they would also hide the upvote/downvote numbers as well. Completely remove all the visible numbers that could potentially be used to "keep score". Posts and comments shouldn't be about who's winning.

[-] nickajeglin@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

But how will I get emotional validation from a group of anonymous strangers?

[-] BornVolcano@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Image Transcription: Comic


[There's no karma?, By Victor Gnarly]


Panel 1

[A hooded figure in black robes, and no face visible save for large, pure red eyes is speaking a room made of stone. The hooded figure speaks in white text bubbles to another character outside of the frame, who responds with black text bubbles]

Hooded figure: So... There's no karma?

Black text bubble: Ye-

Hooded figure: No greedy CEO?

Black text bubble: Yep.


Panel 2

[The out of frame character speaking in black text bubbles is now shown to be a second hooded figure with round red eyes, standing next to hooded figure 1 in the stone room. Hooded figure 1 has a hand outstretched as they speak, while hooded figure 2 is giving them a thumbs up in response. There is a small fire burning on an altar in the background.]

Hooded figure 1: All ad free?

Hooded figure 2: Oh yeah.


Panel 3

[Hooded figure 1 is shown in close up again, pointing a finger to their left, with their eyes wide in a look of surprise]

Hooded figure 1: But why is the logo a-


Panel 4

[Both hooded figure 1 and hooded figure 2 are shown standing on opposite sides of a large drawing of the fediverse icon on the floor, a rainbow pentagram. There is a pure white, slightly transparent glowing figure with wide eyes standing in the centre of the pentagram, their arms outstretched. There is a small white ball on top of an antenna on top of the glowing figure's head, with a beam of white light shining from their head to the ceiling. Squiggles of white energy and red streaks of fire fill the room, emanating from the glowing figure. Hooded figure 1 has their arm slightly raised, as if to shield themselves from the energy in the room]

Hooded figure 1: Pentagram?

Hooded figure 2: Reasons.


^I'm a human volunteer transcribing posts in a format compatible with screen readers, for blind and visually impaired users!^

[-] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] BornVolcano@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

ToR may be coming to an end but accessibility will never stop being a need 🧡

[-] ekZepp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] Omgarm@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What good is a website if you can't summon Eldritch entities?

Edit: that website doesn't load for me

[-] manny_stillwagon@kbin.run 0 points 1 year ago

There's a typo in the url. If you look you'll find an extra ;// in there.

Hey @gnarly your link is borked.

[-] gnarly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's been fixed so maybe an older instance of my post body is on your end? Good to know that sometimes edits revert for some people so I'll be sure to triple check my URLs before posting.

[-] W6KME@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What a thought...we'll have to form opinions of people based upon what they write, not on points that could always be faked or whored. Popularity is an incredibly stupid measure of quality. I'd like to see the up/down arrow on threads replaced by a simple view counter, too.

[-] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not about forming opinions though - it's about deciding what order to sort posts. Sorting by date / view count / upvote count is pretty crap. We only get away with it now because there aren't many people posting. That's changing.

Pretty much all social networks these days have some kind of "karma" like score, though it often isn't visible to anyone. Obviously in the fediverse it would be visible (though maybe not activley promoted?).

The best karma implementation that I know of is the one on Stack Exchange, though I'd like it more if it wasn't so easy to have a high score just by having been on the network for a long time (my score over there is ridiculously high for someone who barely participates these days).

[-] W6KME@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Just because the current system doesn't do what you want, you think going back to a system of cheating and popularity contests is good? Think carefully about that. Unless you're the sort who also refuses to listen to music that isn't on the Top Ten list and only goes to blockbuster movies. If that's the case, honestly the Fediverse may not be the place for you.

[-] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If I wanted to use Reddit/Twitter/etc, I wouldn't have deleted my account on those two platforms. Definitely don't want the fediverse to go that direction.

But I personally believe the problems with those platforms are 100% the fault of the people running the place and the bad decisions they have made in the past and will continue to make in the future.

I think a karma based ranking algorithm, designed by a community that has the right intentions (find good content, and sort it at the top), will work well. Also I think the fediverse is uniquely able to find the right algorithm because each instance can potentially run a different ranking algorithm.

The same way some instances have "vote down" and other instances only have vote up. Time will tell which approach is better, and all the instances will surely adopt the best one.

[-] W6KME@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It may indeed all work out, but I cannot see any possible benefit at all to karma. No matter the intention, it allows opinions to be formed without reading content. People will almost always act like sheep, and too many people will associate karma with legitimacy. I think it would be an incredibly foolish thing to adopt it.

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 1 points 1 year ago

But there is karma?

[-] Ech@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Huh, I hadn't noticed that before. Definitely gonna be the focus of some unstable people I'm sure.

[-] slyme@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

"Not gonna tell you what to do, but here is the post on Reddit."

Can't upvote it there, I already added a redirector rule that redirects all requests that go to reddit.com to about:blank.

[-] Petter1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I would redirect to lemmy, tho

[-] slyme@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, that would probably be better... let me go fix that.

EDIT: I did it.

[-] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And why is it called the Fediverse huh? How could you fall for such a clear honeypot smh my head

It's ALL connected!

[-] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 0 points 1 year ago

How else do you think you build a protocol that lets your youtube clone talk to your twitter clone talk to your reddit clone talk to your facebook clone talk to your instagram clone?

[-] wattanao@fedia.io 0 points 1 year ago
[-] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 1 points 1 year ago

Peertube is a federated YouTube replacement. You can have it where an instance connects to other instances, and you can also sign up to individual channels using Lemmy so new videos show up on your feed, and you can watch, comment, and upvote and that integrates with the channel. Federated instances can also act as seeds for the other instances so popular videos can be distributed, and viewers seed to other viewers so it a bunch of people are watching a video that takes the load off of the servers. It also has streaming including chat integration.

Another great project in the fediverse.

https://diode.zone/ is one peertube instance.

[-] Aiastarei@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

As insignificant as it was I actually liked having karma

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I thought I did, but I actually prefer not to.

[-] jerrimu@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

We have post and reply scores, thats all I need to whore myself out. A score of any kind.

[-] Discoslugs@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I just need hard numbers that tell me im a good person.

Is that so strange?

[-] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

It would be nice if we could create post/communities that only sort comments on recency. I never did like the whole reddit upvote downvote button for comments.

[-] Spzi@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

In the menu below the post, click on 'New'.

[-] Bird_On_Biff@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I don't think there is a way on Jeroba?

[-] twazzyPhoenix@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, when you go into the thread the top right has the lines icon for the menu to sort comments how you want.

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