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Nixos. (feddit.de)
submitted 7 months ago by Johanno@feddit.de to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world

Well let's see if it is worth it or if I go back to debian.

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[-] person@lemm.ee 53 points 7 months ago

the NixOS btw is spreading

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[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 27 points 7 months ago
[-] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 7 months ago

When a grid's misaligned
with another behind, that's...
a moire.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

When the moon hits your knees
And you mispronounce trees... Sicamore.

[-] Pyroglyph@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

When the spacing is tight
and the difference is slight, that's a moire!

[-] guy_threepwood@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

When an eel opens wide and there’s more teeth behind… that’s a Moray!

[-] palitu@aussie.zone 4 points 7 months ago

I sung it in the dunny. Thank you

[-] callyral@pawb.social 1 points 7 months ago

I'm not getting a Moiré pattern

[-] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 27 points 7 months ago

Welcome to the fold!

If you get a chance check out guix as well.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 25 points 7 months ago

I just took my first dip into it recently, and so far I'm really liking it. Doing almost everything from a single config file is awesome. I've had to google a lot of solutions, but every time, the answer was "add this line to your config file and rebuild." That's it.

[-] Johanno@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

I like the idea. And since I am breaking my system on a regular basis I love the possibility to go back or not break it in the first place. However I noticed some issues.

Iscsi isn't working since the program can't change specific files. Vlc settings can't be changed and sth is wrong with the default ones.

Nixos makes things write only that shouldn't be or there's missing an option to make a new version by changing the file.

[-] taanegl@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

Me: *declares an app*\

nixpkgs: Oh what's that, you wanted an entire extra desktop stack inside a separate closure? Yes, sir!

Me: plz no

[-] pbsds@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago

Try installing a cinnamon app on a gnome distro and you get the same dependencies pulled in, but also put in PATH

[-] taanegl@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is my problem, perhaps not with nixpkgs, but nixpkgs:nixos-{stable|unstable}. Throughout history the call to fame for distribution is not all the fancy bells and whistles, but the cohesiveness and stability of the stack - the entire stack.

I'm not saying this is a flaw of nixpkgs, but rather a fair amount of technical debt on the of part NixOS maintainers and developers. It's a vast movable system of modules, while being immutable at the same time. It ain't easy. So more contribution is needed.

I'm happy that people join and help with that. I'll still use NixOS and nixpkgs for embedded, specialised cases, even as servers, but I'm not going to run it on a workstation. But, I'm hopeful for the future. I'd like to run it, but not yet.

It's not really necessary anyways, nix can run on any system... now onto my adventures of bringing nix to an immutable Fedora system without a container or VM lol

[-] jack@monero.town 19 points 7 months ago
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[-] clemdemort@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago
[-] Johanno@feddit.de 12 points 7 months ago

I will give it an honest try but so far I am upset by the software not working as expected.

And hell your documentation is lacking.

There is a single software center currently in beta to install software with gui. And the nix-env version does work well actually but the configuration.nix install is hardly documented and not intuitive.

[-] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago

You need to think about NixOS backwards. It's like learning a new operating system. It's extremely stable, hell it won't let you update if something breaks, but it does feel like whac a mole at times

[-] Johanno@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

I could fix most of my issues by purging kde settings. And fixing the ownership of the home folder.

I could get working iscsi. And now I think I am happy with what is working. Screen tearing is a bit of a issue thanks to Nvidia and my 2 monitor setup, but it isn't as bad as on other oses.

[-] Shareni@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago
[-] Johanno@feddit.de 5 points 7 months ago

Nice. The only usable tool is using non unique naming.

[-] callyral@pawb.social 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Please use it for at least one week, as it's a learning experience and not meant for everyone. It took me around a week to become familiar with Nix and Flakes, but I believe it was worth it since now I have to tweak things less often and my configuration's decently organized.

Also try out Home Manager

[-] Johanno@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

I will. I could already fall in love with it I think.

Still some minor issues but for example I installed timeshift and wanted to set up a root backup when it hit me: i don't need that on nixos XD.

The only thing I still need to figure out is how do I automatically backup my nix configuration. But maybe sth. Like Dropbox will do.

I don't want to publish it to git unsanitzed.

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[-] wolfruff@pawb.social 5 points 7 months ago

Nix, Debian, and Arch ftw

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I read that in HK-47's voice.

he seems to have mellowed.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago
[-] Shareni@programming.dev 9 points 7 months ago

One's the worst idea to suggest to a beginner, the other is not so bad. Mix them up and you've got the best of both worlds.

[-] tuto193@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I love NixOS! Been using it on all my devices since January and probably never going back :)

It all sinply just works™! Don't worry about configuration :) As long as you're not using relatively obscure software, you'll be more than fine reading the docs/manual :)

If you still want to use obsure stuff though, the community on matrix is very active and helpful! Plus most (interesting) projects have at least one or two very dedicated Nix fanatics (/maintainers) willing to help others :D

[-] Shareni@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It all sinply just works™! Don't worry about configuration :)

And how goes your gpu acceleration?

I didn't know they upgraded from the user having to accidentally find out that they need nixgl, which isn't even in nixpkgs, and then dig through open issues to find a solution that might enable them to automatically start programs with it.

As long as you're not using relatively obscure software, you'll be more than fine reading the docs/manual :)

Are alacritty and kitty obscure or have a manual entry? I couldn't get either of them running.

And as for the manual itself, it's so trash that the only instructions for declarative package management use nix-env and aren't actually declarative.

[-] tuto193@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

GPU acceleration

All the needed AMD stuff is pretty well documented in the manual. I'm gaming on NixOS with even my "relatively old" AMD GPU.

nixgl

The only time I heard about needing that was when using plain "nix" (not NixOS), as in using Nix under any other OS, to run graphical applications. I haven't touched nixgl at all, and don't see the need for it.

alacritty and kitty

Literally my terminals (kitty is my main) + foot. Both working easily either under main NixOS config or Home-Manager. What's supposed to not be working there?

Literally don't know what your problems are/where they lie. I'm a Linux noob (don't even have the patience for Arch Wiki + install), coming from Pop_OS to NixOS and I'm happy it's all so easy. I've installed it on my main PC and two separate laptops and so happy to just share (basically) the same config on all of them.

[-] Shareni@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago

Thanks, good to know.

I’m a Linux noob (don’t even have the patience for Arch Wiki + install), coming from Pop_OS to NixOS and I’m happy it’s all so easy. I’ve installed it on my main PC and two separate laptops and so happy to just share (basically) the same config on all of them.

I'm far from a Linux noob, and I gave up on the whole idea before even getting to GPU acceleration, because it was giving me too many issues. Different requirements I guess.

[-] zalgo@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Fwiw I used nixos on my desktop for about 2 years and had zero issues regarding GPU acceleration. That said, I did have a modern AMD GPU, generally the easiest GPU to get acceleration working on.

[-] Johanno@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

So just for fun I'll document how everything goes.

Making a new user with fresh home folder fixed most of my issues.

I managed to get iscsi working.

Vlc settings can be changed in the new home folder too, but for some reason this vlc version shows ssa subtitles wrong. Probably not nixos fault.

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