-40
submitted 2 months ago by makeasnek@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml
all 29 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No, the concern is not what people will see on TikTok but what data TikTok is offshoring from their devices to servers in China. It's a massive surveillance operation.

Now, why would you be trying to dress this up as a free speech issue, I wonder?

[-] WbrJr@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

I would argue in addition to that, that it is the things you don't see on tiktok. They censor specific content that is criticising china or portraying them in a bad light. I'm shure there is good content on the platform. But I genuinely do not understand how people can still use tiktok, same as meta platforms (though they don't censor that much). Do they not know? Or don't care?

[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Do they not know? Or don't care?

Some people one, some people the other, some people both.

[-] Heavybell@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Why don't they just ban those data gathering practises, then? :P

(jk I know why)

[-] bouh@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago

That's quite ironic coming from the USA! Did the patriot act got amended recently or is this sheer hypocrisy?

[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ahh, "but what about". Not "That's not true, here's proof". Interesting approach, even if ineffective.

[-] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

USA PATRIOT Improvement and Reauthorization Act of 2005, USA PATRIOT Act Sunset Extension Act of 2006, USA PATRIOT Act Sunset Extension Act of 2009, USA PATRIOT Act Sunset Extension Act of 2011, USA FREEDOM Act of 2015, etc.

[-] makeasnek@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Except they already made Oracle handle all that and they can easily legislate privacy protections without banning TikTok entirely. And, again, it is my right as a citizen to install whatever app I want even if it is spying on me, just like the rest of my apps do. I could film every second of my life and put it up on Facebook or a personal website and the Chinese government could watch it and there's not a damned thing the US government can do about it.

[-] cmder@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Why don't you install chinese wechat version ? Oh no you don't because government like China restriced acces to it. The point is to protect the mass that doesn't know they are being spy on, if you want to use it jist grab the apk from internet.

[-] mihnt@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I could film every second of my life and put it up on Facebook or a personal website and the Chinese government could watch it and there’s not a damned thing the US government can do about it.

Sounds like your free speech hasn't been effected then.

[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

They've still been offshoring all data to China in contravention of direct orders to stop. Your right to be a moron doesn't extend to compromising national security, not sorry.

[-] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 months ago

I wonder if there will be a time when people use this meme template properly again..

[-] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You really think TikTok has free speech. LMAO.
They will shadow ban you for anything the CCP doesn't like.

[-] shiftymccool@programming.dev 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Just pick a different fucking video platform. There's something wrong about a thing when people call their senators and threaten suicide if they take it away

[-] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's literally Addiction. Most social media use addiction for profit.

[-] fin@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

TikTok isn’t free speech. It’s just a scrapyard of trashy contents. People use TikTok seem to like swimming in the pile of garbage.

[-] The_Lopen@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Honestly, I was one of those people. Eventually, I realized I wasn't happy because the algorithm found that I responded to a specific narrative and would not stop showing it to me no matter how hard I tried to remove it from my feed. I don't like the person I become when I think that way, and the algorithm does not care. I had to just uninstall TikTok to be free of that toxic mindset.

Btw the mindset is incel-flavored misogyny. TikTok nearly re-radicalized me in the worst possible way.

[-] Doubledee@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

Even the people pushing this law acknowledge that the threat is purely theoretical, no one is advancing any serious argument that data has been or will be shared or leaked or anything of the sort. It's just xenophobia, if they wanted to protect American citizens' data they would do something about the way they allow tech companies to just take your data and turn around and sell it to whoever wants it.

Bonus points because US government officials can punt a great bargain basement blowout sale to former US officials by forcing the sale of a company using said xenophobia.

[-] this_is_router@feddit.de 5 points 2 months ago

People are intolerant. Let's not tolerate them. Now we are intolerant:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

[-] Juno@beehaw.org 2 points 2 months ago

It's not a ban of tiktok when they are being forced to sell to a usa company.

And in what way will free speech be hurt? Now I can make jokes about Xi Jinping looking like Winnie the pooh on tiktok once the USA owns it. If anything speech will be more free and this is a shitpost from a China shill.

Fuck the CcP and Fuck Xi jinping! - free enough for you?

[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 5 points 2 months ago

The actual problem is that the language of the bill is looking to make it far easier for a president to ban any given potentially foreign influenced video platform. That's not fantastic and it's been masked under these compounding layers of absurdity.

[-] this_is_router@feddit.de 2 points 2 months ago

Why are you so angry? I never meant or even said what you are implying i did. Quiet the contrary: read the wikipage again, its about when it is justified to act like the side you want to ban.

[-] Juno@beehaw.org 0 points 2 months ago

I calmly and deliberately don't like the ccp or xijinping.

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

We will be more like China

We won't be like China. We'll be more insulated and divorced from Chinese media, culture, and conversation.

That's the stated end goal. Bringing up sharp walls between nationalities in order to control the flow of information between people.

If we keep TikTok open, we risk exposing American young people to Chinese norms, ideals, and social standards. We might even be exposed directly to Chinese mass media (ie, propaganda).

This is a real security risk, as it raises a possibility that younger Americans won't accept American mass media at face value.

[-] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

If you really wanted to ban China, stop buying everything they make. Oh, that's right, you can't. It's literally everywhere.

[-] 7heo@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago

Oh, no, we totally can. We just need to buy local. What? It is "too expensive!!"? Yeah, well, tell me about being part of the problem...

this post was submitted on 20 Mar 2024
-40 points (38.9% liked)

Memes

43767 readers
2784 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS