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submitted 9 months ago by soulfirethewolf to c/android

I found this, I'm wanting to get a pixel tablet in about a week or so. Title just got me wondering a bit, though it's probably just a little bit sensationalized

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[-] krayj@sh.itjust.works 80 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Pixel tablets are not priced as if Google is "desperate to sell Pixel Tablets".

I think the author is confusing "marketing team motivation" for "desperation" just because they got a push notification.

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 21 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I looked up the price because I've been thinking of replacing the basic tablet I bought a couple of years ago.

The Pixel tablet is six times the price. Desperate my ass.

[-] Chozo@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago

What's even stranger is just how much of that cost is for just the base/speaker unit. It's $130 on its own. And, unless I'm misremembering, it doesn't even function as a bluetooth speaker, so it's effectively only usable by the tablet. Just bizarre choices, IMO.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 28 points 9 months ago

I'll get one when the fire sale starts.

[-] Artemis@lemmy.ml 22 points 9 months ago

"Oh my god! We're having a fire! Sale!"

[-] dandroid@dandroid.app 2 points 9 months ago

Amaaaaaaaazing graaaaaaaaaace

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I got a Stadia Controller and a Chromecast Ultra for free, just because a family member subscribed to YT Premium.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago

I got Stadia and Chromecast Ultra for free because they shutdown Stadia and refunded what I paid. 😔

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[-] xerazal@lemmy.zip 26 points 9 months ago

Cut the price down to $249 and maybe I'll bite.

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[-] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

Make an iPad Mini competitor with stylus support.

I don't need a tablet as big as my laptop, but with less features.

[-] GANNON3502@lemmy.one 10 points 9 months ago

god i wish i could get a new nexus 7 tablet.

[-] Paradox 21 points 9 months ago

I bought the Xoom and the Nexus 10, and got my wife a Nexus 7

Google abandoned all within an extremely short timeframe. The Nexus 10 suffered the worst, getting an awful ui regression a few months after it came out

I have seen no evidence Google will do any better this time

[-] steltek@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

Nexus 7 was such a great tablet. I came across it in the Drawer of Old Things, long since broken but kept around regardless. It's hilarious how it's only slightly bigger than some phones. I can even stuff it into my pocket.

[-] NatoBoram@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

For the Nexus 7, you might want to download its LineageOS build before it's lost to time:

It's on Android 11, a huge jump from its last official build on Android 6.0.1.

And to be fair, this is the reason to get a Google device.

You know already that all Android manufacturers are assholes and will use planned obsolescence to make you buy a new device, including Google. You can plan accordingly by getting one that can be easily flashed and flashed back to stock in case of problems. That leaves you with one single Android manufacturer: Google.

And with this in mind, a device that lasted from Android 4.3 (2012) to Android 11 (2021), or 9 years... that's pretty damn good.

[-] Grass@geddit.social 20 points 9 months ago

I'd get one if it was like $300 less

[-] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

fr just give us a 3rd gen Nexus 7

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 months ago

Wait until black Friday. If Google is desperate, they'll offer a good deal at that time.

[-] CaptainAlchemy@lemm.ee 17 points 9 months ago

I personally like the pixel tablet for it's grapheneos support

[-] aluminium@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Ngl, the Pixel Tablet bundled with the speaker (which I really don't care for) feels like Xbox One with the Kinect.

[-] CountChonkula@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

I have a Pixel Tablet and I really only used the speaker to charge it, but I'm probably going to stop because the base is becoming very flakey with my experience. The speaker randomly loses power and I'll have to unplug and plug it back in about a dozen times before it'll start getting power again and this problem started a week after getting it. The charger is not damaged in any way which leads me to think it's probably defective.

[-] TheLeechiestLeech@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago

Oh shit I have the same symptoms. Fuck.

[-] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 months ago

I think the speaker stand is a good product for the google nest users out there, but it should have maybe been a separate option or something.

[-] CountChonkula@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

I think it'd be nice if they offered an option without the base for $400 especially since the hub experience on it as it is currently isn't very good. All hub mode does currently is turn it into a glorified digital picture frame with the home controls button in the bottom corner and the Google Home experience isn't as good as a Nest Hub.

As it is right now, I wouldn't consider the Pixel Tablet as a replacement for the Nest Hub.

[-] huginn@feddit.it 2 points 9 months ago

Out of curiosity what makes the nest hub better/what features does Google home lack?

[-] CountChonkula@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

I initially hoped it would have a hub specific interface that looks similar to the Nest Hub. Instead though, the dock basically puts it into screensaver mode and the home icon pulls up the basic Google Home like if you were to tap the quick settings icon.

As a tablet, it's decent but I wouldn't get it if you're mostly planning to use it with Google Home as I think the current experience is disappointing.

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[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Google is making the same mistakes with the watch, fold, and tablet that they originally made when they rebranded the Nexus to the Pixel. Thinking just making it expensive and the customers will just buy it because reasons.

They seem to have come off of that delusion with most of the phones.

They have not provided a reason to buy their expensive, but middle of the road hardware, when cheaper and competitive options already exist from Samsung and Apple in these segments.

Unless someone just dislikes Apple or Samsungs offering what would make the Google offering stand out?

[-] soulfirethewolf 6 points 9 months ago

I think, kind of just that. I personally do not want a Samsung device because I really don't like their bloatware nor how they try to build an entire ecosystem on top of Android, and I've been already trying to move away from iPad because of the limits of iPadOS.

Google's devices just strike out to me as being everything I want really. Minimal bloat, a nice hardware design, a bootloader that's unlockable, an acceptable quality camera, and a predictable hardware support cycle. Yeah, there's definitely improvements that need to be done, but so far, but the Android tablet market is already pretty limited so Google just feels like a safe bet to me.

[-] itsmikeyd@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago

I had this ad earlier today. Not impressed.

[-] jacktherippah 11 points 9 months ago

I'll wait a couple generations and then buy one for GrapheneOS.

[-] metaphortune@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Need an HP Touchpad level fire sale, please and thank you!

[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago

My Pixel 6 issues (originally bluetooth, which now (mostly) finally works, but now overheating and a factory reset to fix background networking just dying) turned me off pretty hard. I ended up getting another Android tablet instead and it, thankfully, has mostly been great.

I'm still really on the fence about sticking with Google devices for my phone. It's even push me to consider going back to Apple, which I really don't want to do. I'd rather stick with Android, but I also don't want bloatwere and/or spyware (in addition to what using Google apps already gets me).

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[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 9 months ago

The problem is that Galaxy Tab S is far superior and lasts a heck of a long time.

Google should have done what they did with Wear and worked with Samsung to provide a seamless tablet interface instead of try to do their own tablet.

[-] Paradoxvoid@aussie.zone 9 points 9 months ago

The far cheaper Galaxy Tab A series is a near equivalent competitor for where Google is positioning its tablet (an at-home media device, rather than a highly-performant professional device), and for a lot of people, trading the considerably lower price for no docking station and some older specs is worthwhile.

Google need to either make the docking capability a lot more appealing, or reduce the price significantly because at the moment it sits squarely in the home entertainment sphere, but with a price tag creeping up to match professional-tier devices - why would someone pay the premium for what is effectively an ebook and Youtube device?

[-] Elabajaba@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago

The problem with the Galaxy Tab A series is that Samsung cheaps out on their SOCs, to the point where they're unusably slow for even simple web browsing and watching YouTube.

The average person buys one because they're cheap, then thinks all Android tablets suck because of how awful Samsung's A series tablets have been for years and goes and buys an iPad.

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[-] casey@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I just installed GalliumOS on some old chrome books I had laying around. It's worked flawlessly. I think the battery life is even better.

I wonder how it would do on on a tablet.

[-] CanofBeanz@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

I don't recommend galliumos anymore, it is an abandoned project and hasn't seen development since 2021.

If your Chromebook is compatible you can flash a full ROM bios and convert your Chromebook to a normal laptop and run full Linux or depending on the device windows 10/11.

https://mrchromebox.tech/#devices

[-] w2tpmf@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Mrchromebox's firmware is such a game changer for making Chromebooks usefully.

To add on to what you said, you can also install OSX onto Intel based Chromebooks. Not that I find this useful, I just like being able to say I did it to see if it was possible.

[-] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago

I would have thought it was selling pretty well, I know the android tablet market is a small niche but it seems like a strong contender, particularly for the google nest users out there?

I suspect they intended to release it earlier, when the home office and video chat boom was still going on but missed the mark and now have more stock than they wanted.

[-] Fluba 2 points 9 months ago

I got a Lenovo M9 a couple months ago. It's not a powerhouse, but for streaming services/playing local video files it's amazing. Add in reading books and comics, it's a damn steal. Battery life is good, small size, and the folio cover is perfect for taking around the house. $150 without the cover is a great deal. I definitely recommend the folio case too. It slated for Android 13 this quarter as well.

[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Yup. I bought a similar one specifically for comics and manga that I picked up from Humble Bundle, but it also runs all my boardgames well too. Lenovo's tablets are a bit anemic power-wise but you can't beat the price and they're perfect as a bed-side media machine.

[-] Fluba 2 points 9 months ago

Agreed. For such a cheap price, I think it hits a good spot.I regret a little not getting their gaming tablet - I didn't know it even existed during my research. Better specs in a similar form factor. But it wasn't enough regret to return or anything.

[-] TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

We got a Lenovo duet 5 chromebook and it is great. Runs android apps, but is also a full chromebook with the option of a surface style kb and mouse.

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