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Hey everyone,

I am exploring switching over to Linux but I would like to know why people switch. I have Windows 11 rn.

I dont do much code but will be doing some for school. I work remote and go to school remote. My career is not TOO technical.

What benefits caused you to switch over and what surprised you when you made the switch?

Thank you all in advanced.

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[–] finkrat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For me, I had a netbook in 2008 and Windows 7 starter was a paywalled and slow mess, and Ubuntu 8.10 ran like a dream AND ran Windows apps! And looked cooler and the terminal was pretty awesome to use.

It's still that way, Windows 11 runs like shit and only lets you customize so much and makes decisions on when you update and what services you can have running and numerous other minor complaints, meanwhile Linux is free, fast, works well and doesn't get in your way.

[–] akippnn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

When I was 5/6 years old, I loved computers, but I wasn't necessarily a hobbyist. I learned almost everything on my own. I used to heavily modify my Windows desktop back then with skins and Stardock programs to make my desktop look like Mac OS X. I was a big fan of Apple's user interface (iOS/iPad as well, both the skeuomorphism and, well, the flat design a little bit).

So when I was 9, I saw Linux. I decided to use wubi and Ubuntu, tried this brand new OS.

It was awesome. I could modify it as I wanted to. I slept on my primary school classes. Ricing at the time felt great, you had so much control over your own desktop.

I have no idea why I stopped at that point. I think Windows 8 looked cool enough to me, but now I think it's one of the worst OS I've ever used. But games just worked there, honestly. Linux felt more like a toy, while Windows was my comfort zone.

Eventually a few years away from a decade later, I did use Debian 7 for hosting stuff like my bots in GCP. Having used Linux to customize the DE and the exposure to the terminal really helped a lot in making things more familiar to me.

Then I thought why don't I just use Linux desktop again. I started distro hopping. I finally found home in KDE Arch Linux, Proton-GE, the AUR, and Arch Wiki. I rarely do ricing if at all, only because I finally found the setup I'd rather be comfortable with than changing it frequently for no good reason.

I still use W11 to this day on my laptop but only because of school requiring me to use Visual Studio among other things. That's where Docker, WSL2, scoop, MSYS2, and several open source projects to improve QOL comes in. I can be comfortable with Windows and continue to use Linux without any annoying differences in my workflow. I also just use Vim on everything, and the CLI when I want to do productive work.

I've rarely held my mouse on the computer and neither did I work hard to memorize anything. You'd start getting intuitive with everything the moment you start to try understanding the rationale of how stuff is designed to be.

[–] lemminer@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

My experience with windows:

  • Requies a monthly reinstall just to squeeze better performance.
  • I pay for a licence and I still don't own a copy of windows
  • unnecessary services running in background without my concent, and I had no control over them, eating up resources.

My initial experience with Linux:

  • I need to study it to know my way around.
  • applications behave as intended and are reasonable with provided resources.
  • I initially started out with a destop environment which came with some extra software I didn't need (subjective).
  • experience was quite stable.

My current outlook towards Linux:

  • My system is configured and equipped with tools I only need. No bloatware.
  • Gives me a better idle temps than windows.
  • FOSS has lot of talented software which got limitless potential. Your imagination is the limit.
  • Better security and no surveillance.
  • Nvidia drivers, and its respective tech needs to be fully adopted for Linux.
[–] maxrelax@feddit.it 2 points 2 years ago

When I was at uni a professor asked the class to raise their hands if we were using Windows and then MacOS. Then he asked who was using a REAL operating system. Everyone looked confused. He proceded to order all to install linux if we were to follow his class. My First distro was Ubuntu for about a week... I distrohopped for a couple of years and eventually I use arch btw.

Was bored one day and wanted something to do

[–] Esin@lemmy.film 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I switched in June 2021. I was a fan of libre software before the switch (I still am! Love me Krita, Kdenlive, LibreOffice, VS Code if you can count that...), and I saw that many people in that community, plus programming communities, use Linux. I heard that there were lightweight distros (my computer was fairly low-end), and a lot of customization options. I also wanted to try something new, so I ended up dual-booting W10 and Linux Mint, after trying LM in a virtual machine!

Now I have a new computer. It's dual-booting W11 and LM 21.1 Cinnamon. I rarely boot into the Windows partition.

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[–] megane_kun@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When my last PC‌ died around 2019, I had to use a spare, hand-me-down laptop that could barely run windows 7. I was already exposed to Linux back then, and that I was counting on its reputation to run on a potato. I installed Ubuntu (kind of a bad choice, perhaps) on that ancient laptop and it ran surprisingly well! I didn't look back at that point, even after that laptop died (of old age) and I got a new PC.

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[–] LiquorFan@pathfinder.social 1 points 2 years ago

Windows 10 sounded like shit, and Windows 7 stopped being supported.

I had some experience with Linux, most things seemed to work and for the rest I decided that it wasn't worth the hassle of dealing with Microsoft.

[–] mintyfrog@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I left Windows because of telemetry, lack of customization, and tedious updates. I just wish I had bought a machine with AMD rather than NVIDIA because I'm still on X.org for optimus-manager.

[–] art@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Windows XP looked like such a downgrade from Windows 2000. Lacked stability. Wanted something more customizable. I liked the idea of community powered software so Linux was the solution.

[–] gens@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Dota (1, in warcraft 3) would have a hitch every once in a while, and i'd die if it was in a fight. Cause was swap writing to disk, that you can't turn off in winxp. I was already looking at linux, so i said f it. Bdw warcraft 3 runs well on linux if you add -opengl.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

I first dual-booted Linux back in 2008 because I'm a musician and at the time I was a broke highschooler trying to use Ubuntu Studio to record and mix songs without dropping $500 on a Pro Tools license. After that I'd generally always have a dual boot system because I like using Linux for its flexibility.

Back in December I switched to 100% Linux Mint on my main gaming PC because my Windows 10 install was starting to die in all kinds of ways and I was gonna have to reinstall, so I just formatted the partition and went all Linux.

I also self-host a bunch of little servers for various stuff on like 5 different little single-board-computers (Pi 4, M1 Mac Mini, etc), and they all run various flavors of Linux, mostly Debian and Ubuntu but also Asahi on the Mac.

In general I find it waaaay easier to maintain, update, repair, and modify. Package managers should be available for every OS by default, not as an ugly hack like on Windows or MacOS.

[–] macallik@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My intro to Linux was Google. Their chromebooks allow you to install Linux and I've played around w/ Debian. I never took it serious in terms of a viable alternative to Windows, but it was a great way to supplement the barebones ChromeOS over the last 4-5 years.

My desktop was from yesteryear (i7-2600) but could still get most jobs done outside of heavy gaming/local LLM, but I was not going to be able to upgrade to 11 which sucked since the desktop seemed perfectly functional. My plan was to ride out the Windows long-term support until 2028 and then buy a dirt cheap refurb desktop then.

On a separate track, about 3 months ago, I started my foray into front-end alternatives. I canceled YouTube Premium and started using Piped via redirector (redirects webpages to websites of your choosing) and then I found out about libredirect, which does a lot of the heavy lifting for you, and across multiple popular services including twitter, reddit, imgur, etc.

Initially I occasionally used the reddit/twitter alternatives, but as they became clearer bad actors, it became my defacto options. This nudged me to kbin and privacy-focused subreddits where Linux was not the red-headed stepchild.

The hype/reviews around Debian 12 made me curious to try the full desktop environment, so I decided to dual boot my desktop. I bricked it, bought a new W11-capable desktop and dual boot that with Debian 12.

Now, Linux my daily driver, and only use Windows 11 for workflows that are not optimized for Linux yet. The most surprising thing is the level of customization on things that I never thought about before. It can be overwhelming initially, but I'm finding the sweet spot over time.

[–] doomkernel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Long time ago my dad bought a few netbooks and they came with Xandros pre-installed. It wasn't much of a choice to be honest (all my friends, school, every other PC was running Windows). And I never give it a chance because there was a desktop with Windows so I used that instead.

Times goes buy and the Xandros version was not going to keep up with my needs and I've switched to Ubuntu Remix (very cool at the time) and then I've got to experience Ubuntu 09.10 with Gnome. And that was a game changer for me (I learned a lot on how Linux works under the.hood) but I kept Windows machine just for gaming (until last year).

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[–] yardy_sardley@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

I decided to switch when windows xp went end-of-life, because my pc was a mid-2000's era relic that would surely catch fire if it was forced to handle the windows 7/10 bloat. Naturally, I installed Mint on bare metal without doing any research beforehand. Not the best idea, but sometimes it's fun to jump headfirst into a completely foreign landscape. That said, Cinnamon (the desktop environment of Mint) shares much of its design language with windows, so it's not really that foreign, as far as the graphical interface is concerned.

What surprised me was just how different the underlying system was, how much more transparent and accessible it was, and how incredibly efficient and versatile the command line could be. Then there's the broader OSS community, which I think is a fantastic thing to participate in even if you don't use Linux, but using Linux is certainly a gateway.

I'm not saying Linux is perfect, and it's probably not for everyone, but it is nice to not be held captive by some monopolistic corporation, who continuously engages in ethically questionable anti-consumer behaviour, in the name of increasingly monetizing their user base. Linux gives power back to the end users, and that's what makes it worthwhile and important.

[–] socphoenix@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

I’m late to the party but windows Vista forced me off of windows. Not 5 minutes into setting up a new laptop and it told me even after clicking yes for admin privileges that I didn’t have the right to uninstall mcafee… I threw Debian on the laptop and never looked back. Ended up running FreeBSD for years on that thing and have mostly stuck with them since.

For Linux as others have stated lack of crashes and clear ways to customize/fix things was incredible.

FreeBSD doesn’t support all the newer standards yet (looking at you wifi6), but it is beyond rock stable. A month plus of 24/7 uptime between reboots for years and it’s just as snappy as when I first installed it. And even better they push hard to keep things more or less the same. The things I learned setting up FreeBSD 8.0 are still the same for FreeBSD 13. The biggest changes have been upgraded hardware support and quality of life tools that interact with the systems I was already using.

As a note FreeBSD does not come with a graphical interface. They have imo the best manual (handbook) for setting it up and getting going, and have native zfs for software raid arrays.

My risky two cents here is FreeBSD is great for learning all the ins and outs of Unix-like systems but is missing some things linux users take for granted like docker for servers (they use jails you set up yourself) and no cuda libraries for ai. If you have the time and want to learn how these systems operate from the ground up I find it’s better than arch. Easier to install, no compiling everything like gentoo, and an incredibly clean manual that has always made sense and worked exactly as expected. For just getting a desktop and easing into things there’s also nothing wrong with say Linux mint or any of the other recommendations others have said either.

The glory of Unix-like systems is they’re yours, and once you get used to how they run they’ll be rock steady for years and run faster than windows on the same device.

[–] VexCatalyst@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Back in 2003 my sister needed a computer of her own to do schoolwork on. We couldn’t afford a new computer and the only other system we had in the house other then the laptop I had just bought was still running Windows 98 on a failing hard drive and the Windows install disk we had was borked.

I replaced the hard drive, started looking for options and found Ubuntu. And it made sense to me. Once I wrapped my head around the idea of the console, everything made sense in a way that Windows and DOS before that didn’t. And I had the freedom to modify anything I didn’t like, a freedom you don’t really have in Windows or Mac OS.

And it was fast! This ancient computer (AMD Athlon, 256 MB Ram, Ubuntu) was running circles around my new laptop (Pentium 4, 1 GB Ram, Windows XP).

I wound up switching my laptop from XP to Ubuntu and ran smack into why some people complain about linux being hard to use. Some of my brand new hardware just didn’t work in linux. WiFi, no go ever (proprietary firmware), audio, ditto. I liked Ubuntu well enough that I decided to work around the nonfunctional hardware with usb WiFi and a audio expansion card until the next update to Ubuntu when the built in audio just started working.

[–] VexCatalyst@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Whoops, hit send without meaning to.

Since then I have been using Linux as a primary OS for most of the systems that I use on a daily basis. When ever I am using something else I constantly find my self missing the flexibility that Linux based OSs offer me.

And, yes, the hardware situation has gotten considerably better since then, as long as your not running bleeding edge hardware.

[–] D_Air1@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

My reasoning is nothing big and fancy or philosophical. Hell what had happened was: I upgraded from windows 8.1 to windows 10 and I couldn't pair my phone to my laptop via bluetooth in a way that allowed me to use my laptops speakers and the music on my phone. I started looking for a fix and ended up finding some article or forum about how to do that in linux. Installed ubuntu 17.04 or something like that because I didn't know the release cycle of ubuntu. I never looked back. After that tried Fedora then KDE Neon then back to Fedora then openSUSE Tumbleweed, and now EndeavourOS.

Wanted a new adventure to go on and a chance of pace from Windows 10 at the time. Benefits were a less bloated system and more customizability and a way to strengthen my command line skills. I was surprised by how light weight and overall polished the experience was.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I was on windows and just got tired of the larger amount of spyware in my os. The last windows I used was 8, but I did hold out on that for a long time.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

I switched because Windows 2000 was total garbage, and because Linux gave me actual programming tools. I was like a kid in a candy store. Suddenly I had all these amazing professional software packages, and scripting languages that weren't fucking garbage. I'm still WAY too good at DOS scripts. The number of years I wasted learning DOS. Fuck microsoft. I'm still a little mad.

[–] Ascend-910@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I switch to Kubuntu in 2020 because Microsoft discontinued Windows 7. Then I switch to Debian to learn more about how Linux work, and after that I moved to Siduction to get the up-to-date packages. I still rice KDE to look like Windows 7 to this day :P

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

The things I was using my computer to do were becoming increasingly technical - I work in science, and I'm also a massive nerd outside of that. Many of the programs I was using were on both Windows and Linux, but often I was unable to find troubleshooting help for the Windows versions. I knew enough of Linux that I could jiggle things around and make the Linux advice fit into my Windows situation, but it was awkward and added another layer of uncertainty to the stressful troubleshooting.

At a certain point, it felt like a case of "you can't find Windows specific advice because who in their right mind would actually be using Windows to do this stuff?"

Who indeed

(That last part is hyperbolic, but it sort of does feel like I was trying to hammer in a nail with a screwdriver sometimes. Combine that with Windows being annoying and stressful in the personal use context too and I wasn't having a good time. Things got very messy.

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I'd been tinkering with Linux for years and never using it properly when I saw how Windows Vista performed on my new fairly high end PC and formatted and installed Ubuntu and never looked back. Of course it wasn't an entirely smooth experience, setting up X properly was fun in those days but the performance was so much better.

[–] plactagonic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

I have shity low end laptop. It was fine for w10 at first but each update made it worse. I tryed cleaning, reinstall... But then I installed Mint. It was amazing from unusable to snappy. I still use it and it is enough computing for me (browsing, office, watching movies...)

[–] mvee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Foss software for everything that's a one click install got me. I'm surprised msft doesn't make Winget more visible

[–] Makussu@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Only real option if you want to tinker

[–] inverimus@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Windows has just become worse and worse over the years. I was building a new PC and realized I wasn't going to give MS my money for a terrible OS when Linux was free.

[–] emhl@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

I only used Windows because I wanted to play video games. My family computer has always been an Ubuntu machine. Since starting university I played less games and I heard that compatibility has gotten much better since the last time I tried to play video games. I decided to Dualboot for a while and decided to fully switch after using the mess that windows 11 was when it was newly released

[–] fugepe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Hate windows, simple as

[–] MonkeyLord@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

For me I was always interested in alternative OS'. I didn't necessarily dislike windows, I just thought Linux was fascinating and liked playing around with the different ways to do things and accomplish tasks.

It was only later in life that I learned how excessive windows data collection was and became uncomfortable with using it that I began to seek out linux as a full alternative and try to decouple myself from the windows ecosystem.

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

I've been dual booting on and off since 2004, but the big switch came in 2016 with DXVK making my games not run like ass.

I had enough of Windows. I had an older motherboard and the windows drivers were terrible for the sound card causing me to have to reinstall them manually all the time. Sometimes I'd leave a video transcoding and windows would reboot to update. After each update I'd spend the time to get rid of the bloat ware like King games, Xbox garbage etc. Once after an update I woke up to the windows 10 "Welcome to your computer" screen, and it decided during the night that it was going to erase my user profiles.

The most frustrating thing though, is that for all these issues I'm locked out from correcting them, or preventing them, or even checking what happened. Windows obfuscates so much in the name of "user experience" that any effort to diagnose a problem or fix a problem usually results in reinstalling being the best solution.

Also, Settings/Control Panel is a mess and really shows the lack of coherence in the OS. Linux isn't completely coherent by design, Windows is by ineptitude.

[–] hunte@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I was studying software engineering so I knew about linux for a while but never went ahead to try it as a workstation OS. I started to really dive into it when Windows 10 came out. Win10 is now regarded as one of the "good" editions but that kind of wasn't the case at release time, switching from Win7 it was bloated with a whole lot of unnecessary new "features" and weird changes. Win7 got it's end-of life announced and having Vista and more recently Win8 in memory I just about had it with Microsoft's shenanigans so I started looking for an alternative. I never really ran a doal-boot setup, I had an old little thinkpad to experiment on and in the first year I ran it through basically all major and minor distros I could find. The hopping was real 😄

I was hooked, loved everything about the freedom and it was refreshing building my own OS from scratch so I settled with arch for a while. At first with arch based distros on my main rig as training wheels (Manjaro and Endeavour) and then plain arch with Qtile and then KDE.

Nowadays especially because of my work I rather much prefer more stable experiences, I switched to Fedora after a pacman -Syu borked GIMP in a particularly annoying time (still love you Arch, no hard feelings ❤️) and just now after about 2 years I installed debian with all the RHEL stuff going on. Kinda making a whole circle in this journey.

I was just thinking about this because I have to use windows sometimes at work that linux really brought back the fun for me in computing. Despite all the flaws and issues that we are dealing with like the whole packaging question and things like that, it is just so refreshing to deal with these issues knowing that I can deal with them, rather than waiting how Microsoft will make those choices for me. For me having Windows or a Mac is like having half of a computer where I just have no choice but accept certain things as a paying customer no less.

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