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An ex-president is encouraging attacks on allies by a major enemy. It's as simple as that. Once again, Trump proves he is a threat to the US. He's literally a security risk.
Truly the definition of security risk.
He's permanently damaged NATO. Even if he doesn't win, the damage is already done.
I disagree. NATO can rebound from this with the right U.S. president making the right concessions. But the will has to be there.
Alliances rely on trust.
NATO allies now know that vast swathes of the American electorate are willing to knowingly vote for probable Russian or Chinese assets, who won't have their back. If not in the next election, possibly in an election with the next few decades.
This has already been factored in. For example, given the timing, I doubt it's entirely a coincidence that the Japanese withdrew from their partnership with Lockheed Martin in favour of cooperation with BAE for a 6th generation fighter. Talk of (and funding for) EU strategic autonomy also increased dramatically after Trump's election. And I know plenty in the US like to complain about the EU not pulling its weight, historically not without reason, but in the longterm the Europeans moving further from the US won't result in more weapons sales for the US. Likely the opposite: Europe first.
When it comes to intelligence sharing, the US electing a Russian asset who shared classified documents with the Russians and likely got foreign assets killed, really isn't something that you can fix in a few years either. The damage is lasting if not permanent. Trump may be gone, but US institutions are still filled with his supporters and ideological fellow travellers.
Especially at a time when China is ascendent, it's possible that Trump has permanently fucked the US and that the zenith of US power and influence has already passed. That it is all downhill from here. Behold the decline and fall, let's all hold hands with our backs to the wall.
No, not in a few years. I'm just saying it's not necessarily permanent.
And half of the country still wants to vote for this insurrectionist clown.
The reason is very simple. Conservatives are vile pieces of shit. It really is that easy.
Nearly every act of bigotry ever committed in history has been done by conservatives. Nearly every war of aggression, every genocide and every oppressive dictatorship throughout history has been at the hands of conservatives. In fact, nothing good in all of human history has ever come from conservatism. Nothing at all.
Vile pieces of shit will always vote for the most vile piece of shit they can find. They can't help themselves because they are vile pieces of shit.
An insurrectionist clown encouraging a former KGB agent in charge of Russia to attack Europe.
Every dead Republican president since Eisenhower is spinning in his grave.
Eisenhower epiphet (colored)
I thought he was mask off in his previous campaign, but he definitely isn't holding back this time. He's telling his whole supporter base he'd happily do whatever Putin wanted and they cheer for him anyway... If they want to be Russian puppets so badly, we should just send them all off to Russia where they'd clearly be happier.
Reminds me of the guy with a shirt on at one of his rallies that read "rather be a Russian than a Democrat". I think the guy later tried to walk back the seriousness of his shirt, but these fools look like they're roped in whether they like it or not.
This man has been going off the deep end recently or I had recovered from seeing the wild shit that happened during his presidency.
He needs to keep going further in order to distract from what he has done in the past
This guy is absurd
He would fit in a 90s video game cutscene like Red Alert.
Honestly , no idea how his followers sleep at night, or are they just that stupid...?
Many are that stupid, compounded with a belief system that discourages critical thinking, encourages blind faith and trust, and maintains an insular culture through a hefty persecution complex.
Yes. I’m speaking about evangelical Christian’s.
America under Trump means our allyship erodes and we lose the power to stand up to major threats in the event of war, plain and simple
Traitors gonna betray.
I honestly can't understand how the party of Reagan became the party of traitors and insurrectionist.
Yes, how did the party of Iran-Contra suddenly start behaving underhandedly?
Then you don't actually know anything about Reagan or his party.
It's a possibility.
I'm really worried he'd straight up help Russia tbh. Why wouldn't he?
He'd sell Alaska if he could. Putin might even want it.
Won't be shocked if he tries. He's gotten away with lots of things he couldn't do, and if he's reelected the line is gonna get even blurrier. I don't know what could really happen and I'm not interested in finding out.
this post was submitted on 11 Feb 2024
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