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[–] swayevenly@lemm.ee 79 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'm thinking it would've been a bit lighter if he said "I don't like this guy" with the same expression as in the previous panel.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it reads more like from a self help book with a focus on belief systems and how your feelings and reactions to something are always the result of your very subjective perception of reality.

[–] swayevenly@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lol yeah that was the word I was looking for, thanks!

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[–] julianh@lemm.ee 60 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] THEDAEMON@feddit.ch 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Seraph@kbin.social 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (6 children)
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[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 49 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Good for him, brushing your teeth and honest introspection isn’t easy when you hate yourself. He’s right about that art though, derivative trash.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you don't like that art, let me introduce you to post modernism: 💩😘👍🚙⚫

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oooo so anti authoritarian with a dash esoteric symbolism.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's way better than what I have witnessed, there seems to be a meaning 🥲 !

Seen for real:

A car painted black.

A rack of clothing.

Magazines.

Seen on the internet:

Shit in a box

Ejaculate on magazines

...

The banana taped to a wall, sold for a lot is probably a try to laundry money or similar though.

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (20 children)

I was being a little tongue in cheek because you were having a laugh about what you think of that art movement.

Postmodern art is better enjoyed with context. A urinal signed and put on a pedestal doesn’t mean or look like much of anything, but it’s more impactful when you understand the intention behind it –Duchamp and his fountain are worth reading about even though he pre dates the movement so it’s a little beside the point but he’s kinda the grandfather of the movement, so whatever he’s cool.

Classifying something as postmodern art isn’t about a shared aesthetic like renaissance, cubism, or pop art. It’s focus is typically less about the craft and more about the message. A lot of the time it’s mocking the status quo or the art world in general, other times it’s making a challenging statement in a challenging way.

“Comedian” or the banana taped to canvas seems like an artist phoning it in because their name has the value not the art anymore. Maybe it is just being silly and that’s all there was to it from conception to execution. On the other hand they worked on that for months, obessing over the type of tape and placement, chose the banana because it is iconic while also high risk to be wiped out from climate change and unveiled it in a studio in Miami.

If it’s only the former and this is a meaningless money laundering scheme like you suggested (most people laundering money don’t want global attention for only $150k). Even if that’s the case, we’re still talking about it 5 years later. So the purpose if art is fundamentally creating something greater than the sum of it’s parts then they fucking nailed it.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I agree, the Emperor looks stunning in his new outfit once you know the tailor's backstory.

You see, he was orphaned at a young age, and to make ends meet he took up sewing.

Unfortunately, his store burned to the ground and after collecting the insurance payment he was forced into a life of conning rich idiots out of money.

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

That’s that sweet sweet anti authoritarianism I’m talking’ about!

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I find introspection the easiest part of hating myself, there's so much to attack! Lol

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I get you’re joking, but just in case there’s any earnestness there and you’ve been hurting your own feelings lately. I’d like you to know that acknowledging self loathing is honest introspection and a good first step, the self loathing itself is more like self harm and generally dishonest. If there is any honesty in it, try and practice more self compassion.

Shit’s tough out here, you matter and people care about you. Keep going friend :)

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[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 33 points 9 months ago
[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because all negative opinions are invalid.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 19 points 9 months ago (3 children)

No. It's not about having a single negative opinion, it's about having nothing but negative opinions.

[–] AlataOrange@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Counterpoint there has been a measurable decrease in quality of most forms of media as more and more stuff are soulless cash grabs. It used to be that games shipped completed, now they ship broken cost more and expect you to pump even more money into them on top of that. The last move I saw that I cared about was Dune. Many of the restaurants near me have reduced their quality of ingredients and staff, now when going to the nearby sandwich shop my order is wrong more often than it is correct.

What do we do when the world is measurably becoming worse?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Started out writing a somewhat long answer post, got a bit lost, there are lots of stuff to think about and not only about game development or global economy but media and consumption overall IMO.

What about starting a community discussing the general enshittification of the internet and the world, but also good recommendations and ideas for well the future?

I'm on, and if there is no neutral place where to make a community, I can provide one on my lemmy server if needed.

Cheers and love to the crazy game developers out there!

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 9 months ago

I think a puzzle game in style of viewfinder where you can overlap your photos of objects to create more complex solutions, but the more times you copy the same thing the more blurry and less physical it becomes would be such a cool game.

There have been really neat little things that feel short of a pearl but that is kinda the point. They get worked over and over again until suddenly its something amazing. Stories of wizards are nothing new nor are magical schools but yet we know of one big one.

The problems I think also settle into drive and time for realizing the ideas. People complained of the "nanny state" of the UK in the 70s except it spawned massive musicians and artists. Also we need spaces to discover the new and grow it naturally, which there are fewer 3rd spaces and yet infinitely more from the internet.

I always hope for something new and hope that through the noise I will find it. If that means somehow figuring a space for exploration and inspiration I think it's much overdue.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 4 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Although mainstream media might be worse, there are stil lots of movies and series that are pretty high quality being released every year.

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Right, it’s not about expressing negativity per se but about maintaining, or establishing, standards and quality.

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[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 9 points 9 months ago

The comic is clearly mocking critics, tho, down to the stereotype bald man with a thin mustache and a scarf.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago
[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Some people take waaay more than 14 years to figure this shit out

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

Sounds about right for some types of depression

[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Do critical critics exist anymore? I feel like I haven't seen a good pan in ages. Maybe when Cats came out, but everyone dog piled that one.

[–] xX_fnord_Xx@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'll try to fill the void...

: Watches Saw XI:

It stinks!

[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

I completely forgot about that show! (Provided this was a The Critic reference)

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago

Expend4bles and Aquaman 2 are the worst films of the last year by far.

[–] arken@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

The Pitchfork review of Jet's album "Shine On" was just an embedded video of a chimp pissing in its own mouth and a 0.0/10 score. That was 2006.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I would like art critics more if they were explaining things that they noticed instead of telling me how I should feel.

It's kinda cool to me that there are people in the world who can really nerd out on a given piece. Explaining the style, history, context etc. That is useful to me.

Movie and book reviews are not like that however. Usually it is "I didn't like this, you shouldn't like it, let me rant about 20 things I didn't like about it that are not really relevant to JUSTIFY my subjective opinion that is also objective and you are a moron if you disagree".

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 9 months ago

I don't like food, I love it. If I don't love it, I don't swallow.

[–] Rascabin@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago
[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Jay Rayner "I'm in this comic and I don't like it"

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