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[–] ItsAFake@lemmus.org 44 points 11 months ago (4 children)

So, do we get to start calling what's happening everywhere world war 3 or is there like some committee that meets on this?

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Once some major players start conscripting people I think it'd be reasonable to call it WW3. This is the preamble

[–] AlfredEinstein@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hasn't russia been conscripting for a couple of years now?

[–] dlpkl@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

whether you or me like them or not, they are a major player.

now we just need china and a couple more euro countries to join in on the fun.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well it did say major players, plural. If you have major players directly in opposition and both feeling the need for conscription...

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

thats russia and the US right now.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't see any draft in the US happening right now...

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

they are desperate for conscripts

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why would you say that? They aren't conscripting at all. There's not even a whiff of anyone suggesting we need to activate the draft.

Conscription refers to involuntary military service, and there hasn't been a hint of that since Vietnam (it worked out sooo well in Vietnam, with a crazy high incidence of soldiers killing their own superiors).

Even in voluntary service, recruiting is way less aggressive than it used to be. Growing up in the 80s/early 90s you were inundated with recruiting efforts, on radio, television, and even as a pretty aggressive part of school. My kid has not been nearly so exposed to recruiting efforts. Now we have a third of people going in compared to 1990 (and they are still turning down about 25% of applicants).

So I don't know where you are coming from, but involuntary service in US isn't vaguely in sight and even if you mistook voluntary service for 'conscripts', even that is at a 40 year low and still turning away people... Hardly seems 'deseperate'

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

they are participating on conflicts all over the world and are missing their targets for personnel, despite aggressive campaingns on social media kids.

this tells me enough about their involvement and possible future role in the next world war.

it doesnt need to be simpler than this.

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[–] Bourff@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's a world war only when western european countries are involved. Otherwise it's just sparkling conflict.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird 1 points 11 months ago

TBF, we aren't even remotely close to the scale of international conflict seen in the 2 world wars. You have to be deeply ignorant to think otherwise. Again, we're not even close, not even like a tiny fraction in terms of scale.

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

It's not a war until the other side is able to fight back.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

It's never a world war until it's over and the dust settles on the graves of millions around the globe.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

U.S. military forces today conducted strikes on seven facilities, which included more than 85 targets in Iraq and Syria, that Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and affiliated militias use to attack U.S. forces. This is the start of our response. The President has directed additional actions to hold the IRGC and affiliated militias accountable for their attacks on U.S. and Coalition Forces.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

damn straight, feel the love

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They used B-1s, lol.

That's a lot of finding out they just got.

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Need to make space for the raiders which came in early and under budget.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Came in early and under budget

Title of your sex tape!

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Who are Early and Budget?

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Under budget for who? I didn't think it was NG and the government already has a contract with a price.

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

B21 came in under budget for USAF, fact

[–] Cipher22@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully, they don't lose 1/3rd of their navy accidentally... again.

[–] DdCno1@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why are you hoping that they don't? Given the shenanigans the Iranian navy has been up to, promoting much of it to submersible status would be a good thing.

[–] Cipher22@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

Well, to be honest, this was a sarcastic comment to the time the US did accidentally sink more of their navy than intended. (A little more than 1/3 if their operational force.) The original goal was only 4 platforms IIRC. It may have grown a scotch before the end.

Which probably doesn't mean much to the sailors. Hind sight being 20/20 and all. Still a bit of an oops.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The attacks are the first of many expected to take place.

Washington Post's Dan Lamothe has said that while the U.S. struck more than 85 individual targets in Iraq and Syria, these were spread just eight general locations in those two countries.

U.S. officials have stressed that there is no plans currently to strike targets in Iran.

[–] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

we dont need to strike Iran directly. once their international assets get frozen they've got a limited window where they can do anything, and we just blew up most of their anything.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago
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