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[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Once some major players start conscripting people I think it'd be reasonable to call it WW3. This is the preamble

[–] AlfredEinstein@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hasn't russia been conscripting for a couple of years now?

[–] dlpkl@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

whether you or me like them or not, they are a major player.

now we just need china and a couple more euro countries to join in on the fun.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well it did say major players, plural. If you have major players directly in opposition and both feeling the need for conscription...

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

thats russia and the US right now.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't see any draft in the US happening right now...

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

they are desperate for conscripts

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why would you say that? They aren't conscripting at all. There's not even a whiff of anyone suggesting we need to activate the draft.

Conscription refers to involuntary military service, and there hasn't been a hint of that since Vietnam (it worked out sooo well in Vietnam, with a crazy high incidence of soldiers killing their own superiors).

Even in voluntary service, recruiting is way less aggressive than it used to be. Growing up in the 80s/early 90s you were inundated with recruiting efforts, on radio, television, and even as a pretty aggressive part of school. My kid has not been nearly so exposed to recruiting efforts. Now we have a third of people going in compared to 1990 (and they are still turning down about 25% of applicants).

So I don't know where you are coming from, but involuntary service in US isn't vaguely in sight and even if you mistook voluntary service for 'conscripts', even that is at a 40 year low and still turning away people... Hardly seems 'deseperate'

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

they are participating on conflicts all over the world and are missing their targets for personnel, despite aggressive campaingns on social media kids.

this tells me enough about their involvement and possible future role in the next world war.

it doesnt need to be simpler than this.

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz -2 points 11 months ago

You don't think Russia is a major player in this current shitshow? Or was it an attempt to belittle Russia?

I'm assuming its the latter because otherwise you're a dense motherfucker