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[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 134 points 9 months ago (4 children)

This is the same kind of language employed by far right assholes everywhere.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 9 months ago

"If you don't like it, go back to $countryTheyAssumeYouCameFrom", yup. Just a further blurring of the lines between blue and red. By 2032, it'll just be varying shades of purple, and most of them will be angled toward the fuchsia end.

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[–] Hooverx@lemm.ee 94 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The absolute disregard for Palestinian lives.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 86 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So I guess genocide is an American value, and if you oppose genocide then you're unamerican.

Just another data point indicating that I have never actually been American, and I should have no loyalty to it.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As an indigenous person, duh.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You just have to look at US history to know that we're pro genocide. Hell, we were doing it just a few years ago to asylum seekers.

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[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

So I guess genocide is an American value, and if you oppose genocide then you’re unamerican.

Settlers built this country off inordinate amounts of slavery and genocide; this has always been the score. Why do you think they're so gung-ho, brook-no-dissent about genociding Palestine? Israelis are just Junior Americans at this point.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's what I've been telling people who say "I won't vote for someone who supports genocide:" This is America. All our politicians support genocide. That and "more jobs" are the only things both parties agree on.

If you want to vote for someone who isn't pro-genocide you're gonna have to move, or get used to never, ever, ever getting what you want.

Yes, it sucks. But there's literally nothing we can do about it unless you want to get a degree in physics and build a time machine and sink Columbus's boat before he sights land.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I just write-in at this point, every single time. As many members of the Wu-Tang Clan as I can remember for however many slots there are. Because I staunchly am a "no genocide" voter-- and there's nothing that brings me more pleasure come election season anymore than cheesing in the mugs of every settler liberal, elephant-red or ass-blue, who thought they could cudgel a pencil-whip for their mass murderer of choice out of me.

Might transition to writing in Dipset members though.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

That and “more jobs” are the only things both parties agree on.

They only agree on that in public, while in private (with a few exceptions) they are fine with the Federal Reserve raising interest rates to induce layoffs to ensure workers are too scared of losing their jobs to demand raises.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I served in the Army and I think this country is a festering shithole of privilege and corruption. I don't stand for the stupid national anthem, ever.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

I stand, but I sing The Internationale instead.

[–] ralphio@lemmy.world 71 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How convenient for dem leadership that anyone who disagrees with them is actually a foreign agent.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 64 points 9 months ago (5 children)

So there's articles now about her calling them both Chinese and Russian agents for protesting. Nice job, grandma.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

Then she doubles back and said she's actually calling for a cease fire too...

But what she's really asking for is a complete surrender of Gaza.

Like when idiots say the invasion of Ukraine needs to end, so Ukraine needs to surrender.

If your call for a cease fire is the victim to surrender to the aggressor, that's not a cease fire, it's you being on the bad guys side.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The Dems and Dem-aligned corporate media have spent the last eight years pushing Russiagate conspiracy theories, and now they’re expanding BlueAnon to include China because the US is itching to ramp up Cold War II.

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago

People seem to be mad about what you've said based on the votes, but you're right. Russiagate in 2016 was a nothingburger and democrats have been riding it for the past 8 years: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/01/09/russian-trolls-twitter-had-little-influence-2016-voters/

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 57 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago

100% against the genocide in Palestine and think our representatives should be doing everything they can to stop supporting it but this video is clearly edited. Pelosi's mouth is moving basically the whole video yet you can hear absolutely nothing from her except the very end when she gets into the suv. You can very faintly hear the "go back to China" line. However if you look at her mouth it's not matching up with it at all. Someone clearly dubbed audio over video to make it sound like something it wasn't.

[–] outer_spec@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So she’s not just an asshole, but bad at geography too. Got it.

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[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 26 points 9 months ago

If she stays in much longer, she'll be the Democrats' Mitch McTurdle.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 24 points 9 months ago
[–] SmokeInFog@midwest.social 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Is there any indication that this desperate ploy to reframe any criticism of Israel's genocide in Gaza or recognition of innocent Palestinians' basic humanity and rights as purely foreign propaganda is working at all? It's absolutely craven

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How do these guys fuck up sitters every day. I'm not a yank but you fucks export all your rhetoric and issues anyway so can you get your shit together please.

This old bag of bones needs to fuck off, get out and vote for Christ's sake.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

I'm voting twice this year

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 21 points 9 months ago

I guess liberals cannot be upset that people against the genocide didn't vote for them. They are all Chinese according to them.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 21 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'm a bit confused by this:

“For [the pro-Palestinian protesters] to call for a cease-fire is Mr. Putin’s message, Mr. Putin’s message. Make no mistake, this is directly connected to what he would like to see.

Let's just put aside the fact that asking for a ceasefire for most people is a humanitarian request. You don't need to have picked a side to accept that the ordinary people need some kind of help getting to safety (or relative safety). I'm not commenting on that here though.

It may be that I'm missing something obvious, in which case fine. But, how does a cease-fire in Gaza benefit Putin? I would say that any instability elsewhere in the world (Gaza, Houthi rebels, the Iran Pakistan thing the other week) work entirely in his favour. While the west (and some of the rest of the world) need to move to stabilise problems aside from the war in Ukraine, they have less time, resources to spend checking up on his activities in Ukraine. The media time is split away from what's happening over there and of course, military budget is redirected away from arms for Ukraine, to operations in these other regions and arms for Israel.

I must be missing something, right?

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

But, how does a cease-fire in Gaza benefit Putin?

It doesn't. A ceasefire in Gaza means the US wouldn't need to send ammunitions to Israel to massacre Palestinians, freeing more supplies to be sent to Ukraine to fight Russia.

The conflict continuing and spreading across the region and getting the US stuck in the Middle East distracting it from Ukraine though, does help Putin. So, this leaves us with a logical conclusion, Pelosi is either a Russian-asset or just relishes in genociding Palestinians.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 18 points 9 months ago (10 children)

We need to pass a constitutional amendment that sets the maximum age to hold public office (including judges) to 67 years old. You can do whatever you want past 67, but you can't hold public office.

Read the room, Nancy!

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Copying my comment from elsewhere in this thread:

Individual encounters may have to do with the declining mental faculties of geriatrics, but the superstructure of the capitalist class (who are the ones pushing the stories about foreign interference and terrorists and red/yellow/brown scare all that pro-empire propaganda) that must change. Voting in yet another capitalist sponsored imperialist drum beater (the only type of candidate that's allowed to run for election) who's a bit younger than these should-be seniors home residents won't change anything at all. Pointing the finger at the advanced age of elected officials is a distraction, simple as that.

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[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (18 children)

I fuckin wish China was where I came from. I am literally so ashamed of, so vehemently, hatefully disgusted by the nation I was born into, a nation in which white settler ghouls have indicated they're going to keep their foot on the entirety of my race's collective neck (thanks Joe, will never forgive you for Cop City or for RICO charging the protestors against it), that I wish they'd deport me to China.

It'd save me about ten, fifteen grand in travel costs, I'd probably find better work, better living conditions, and most importantly, a sense of belonging that I haven't had since some old settler hag decided she wanted to call cops on me for going for a fuckin walk. I fuckin wish. In fact, I pray the Anglo settlers try to start a war they couldn't possibly keep the materiel up for. I'd defect in a New York minute.

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[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

So literally fake news is OK on here?

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago

Can you cite it being fake news?

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago

Please support your claim that this news is fake.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Why do you think this is fake news when anyone can see the video for themselves?

The Hill | Rising: Go back to China': Nancy Pelosi shames ceasefire protestors, suggests they're foreign assets

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 months ago

I love how the mask just keeps falling off. US politicians keep exposing themselves as racist scumbags.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Do people really expect that there comes something meaningfully out of such a old brain under that kind of pressure? Have you never talked to such old people? They need way more time to think compared to young people. Americans should stop voting such old people into politics, it is just not efficient. But of course, we have the same problem here..

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Individual encounters may have to do with the declining mental faculties of geriatrics, but the superstructure of the capitalist class (who are the ones pushing the stories about foreign interference and terrorists and red/yellow/brown scare all that pro-empire propaganda) that must change. Voting in yet another capitalist sponsored imperialist drum beater (the only type of candidate that's allowed to run for election) who's a bit younger than these should-be seniors home residents won't change anything at all. Pointing the finger at the advanced age of elected officials is a distraction, simple as that.

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