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[โ€“] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 89 points 2 years ago (3 children)

For children's health?!? Should've been banned years ago for the planet's health ๐Ÿ˜ก

[โ€“] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you ban it to save the children, you have the conservatives on your side.
If you ban it to save the planet, it becomes a leftist issue and people will resist the "wokeness".

[โ€“] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Real conservatives, not proto-fascist populists or extreme neo liberals, would want to conserve the environment because they'd be interested in keeping the tradition of clean air and growing traditional crops. We see some of this in Teal movements (green/blue).

[โ€“] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The Tories don't care about saving the children unless it's a means to enacting some kind of dystopian police state. I wonder what their are motivation here is.

[โ€“] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, sod the children.

[โ€“] Devi@kbin.social 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Disposable vapes are such nonsense, loads of single use plastic, sold freely all over, not even that cheap considering the use, and nobody puts them in the bin! They're just all over the floor everywhere.

[โ€“] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They should be but in the bin. Because of the battery. In the UK many supermarkets and local authorities will dispose of them for free, so there still no excuse.

You forgot about โ€œnโ€™tโ€.

[โ€“] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Finally the Tories do something useful

[โ€“] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Tweak@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago

Like back in 2010, when they campaigned on heating allowances for OAP's, which they didn't bother to action until the 2015 election - by which time most of the people who voted that way had already died off!

[โ€“] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

None of them vape so they don't care enough to block it. What will have happened is some civil servant will have suggested that it's a good idea, and because no one wanted to block it they're going to do it.

They just exist to make sure that laws that are enacted don't affect any of their backroom backers. I guess disposable vape companies don't have connections.

[โ€“] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The latest changes would also introduce powers to stop refillable vapes being sold in a flavour marketed at children and to require that they be produced in plainer, less appealing packaging.

To help stop underage sales, additional fines will be brought in for any shops in England and Wales caught selling vapes illegally to children.

The announcement follows an initial consultation launched late last year by the UK government and devolved administrations to gauge public attitudes to measures being proposed to reduce levels of smoking and vaping.

Deborah Arnott, chief executive of Ash, said that the "government's strategy is the right one: stop smoking initiation, support smokers to quit..., while protecting children by curbing youth vaping".

Dr Camilla Kingdon, president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, said the organisation was "thrilled to see the government take the first necessary steps to create a smoke-free generation".

Trading Standards officers also say more resources are needed to help crack down on rogue retailers, and it may take some time and a different range of policies to stop vapes with damaging illegal content coming into the UK and reaching children.


The original article contains 1,034 words, the summary contains 190 words. Saved 82%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[โ€“] neurogenesis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[โ€“] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There's 1hr 20 minutes of video there. Is there a written article or transcription anywhere? Or a summary?

[โ€“] pedestrian@links.hackliberty.org 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Second video summary:

The video discusses how disposable vapes reflect the priorities of contemporary capitalism. It explores how industries are increasingly designing products and services to cultivate addiction and eliminate consumer choice. This includes tactics like the razor and blade model, restrictive patents, and subscription services that lock customers into long-term relationships. While governments regulate some addictive products, they often fail to curb exploitative practices that undermine competition. Disposable vapes exemplify how corporations have optimized business models around addiction and behavioral manipulation.

Something interesting this passage highlights is how companies in diverse industries from vaping to software to insulin have adopted similar strategies originally used by industries like tobacco and gambling. These strategies are designed to establish captive customer bases through addiction, lack of alternatives, and high switching costs.

Brilliant, thank you!

[โ€“] pedestrian@links.hackliberty.org 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

First video summary: The video discusses vaping and analyzes its health effects compared to smoking cigarettes. It explains how vapes work on a technical level by heating liquid that contains nicotine. Nicotine is highly addictive as it affects the brain's reward system and causes a rapid release of dopamine. Newer vapes use nicotine salts which allow for higher nicotine levels without throat irritation, potentially increasing addiction risks. While vaping may be less harmful than smoking, it still delivers nicotine which can have long term health impacts and is particularly concerning among youth. An interesting point was how nicotine salts allowed vapes to satisfy nicotine cravings more effectively like cigarettes, fueling their rise in popularity.

Brilliant, thank you again!

[โ€“] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

https://www.rsph.org.uk/about-us/news/nicotine--no-more-harmful-to-health-than-caffeine-.html

Nicotine is no more harmful than caffeine by itself. It's not even really what gets people addicted, the habit is.

Let's focus on what the real issue here is. Pollution from disposable vapes.

[โ€“] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

For the chicken โ„ข๏ธ

What a typo. I'm not charging it .

[โ€“] conorm@feddit.uk -3 points 2 years ago

vaping was introduced by, spread by, and popularised among the youths by the acts of the government and the people behind the government, it is not enough to merely suggest that their acts now justify anything, they wish to ruin the youths and create a useless generation

[โ€“] snaprails@feddit.uk -3 points 2 years ago

That noise you can hear in the background is organised crime celebrating. Again.