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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Ukraine would have gotten all of that if they could be trusted not to use it to attack Russian mainland. The issue is that the fascists can't be controlled so they have to strictly control and take care not to give them tools that they can use to do that.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I love how clueless the libs and NAFO chuds are when every aid package to Ukraine specifically excludes long range missiles for this exact reason

They think Ukraine is gonna be able to hit Putin and end everything like a video game

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago

The big brain move would be to get the UK to ask for them and just include them in the next storm shadow shipment.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I mean Ukraine is supposed to get their first F-16 fighter jets sometime this year, but there is no chance they get the new US toys in the F-35 and F-15EX. They'll never get that.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

I mean Ukraine is supposed to get their first F-16 fighter jets sometime this year,

Will be "delayed".

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Wasn't it "some time this year" for the last six months of 2023 too?

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ukraine is never getting F-35s, do people really think that the US is going to allow Russia to get combat data on it's latest stealth jet? At most they'll get some old F-16s.

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Having put no research into this, I bet the reasons for why the F-35 is not put in an actual combat situation are much more mundane.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Odd that Isn'trael asked for F-35s. Hamas has no AA to speak of so a non-stealthy and cheaper bomb mule makes more sense for fighting in Gaza. Acquiring more stealthy planes implies that they're worried about opponents with actual air defences.

In that region, Egypt, Iran, and Syria operate Russian S300 AA missiles that can seriously threaten any non-stealthy plane. Kind of a sign that Isn'trael is gearing up to hit one of them.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Israel has been hitting Syria non-stop for the past decade freely

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

True, I wonder if this is the IOF gearing up against Egypt and Iran then.

[–] newmou@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

What are you guys fricking doing. Ukraine needs our HELP.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

Please pray for Ukraine.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Anyone with 🇺🇦 and 🇵🇸 in their name needs to go live in Donetsk for a year to learn their underdog fetishism doesn’t apply to Ukraine as cleanly as they imagine

[–] Zvyozdochka@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago
[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Ukraine really overplayed their hand

They thought that they were white, because they hated the Russians

In reality they were just sacrificial lambs