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Boo this man (i.imgur.com)
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[-] plain_jane@lemmy.world 126 points 1 year ago

There are very good reasons to boo this man, but this isn't one of them. Lol

[-] vimdiesel@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

A lot of people are very ignorant about history. This is much better than 12 hours a day 6 days a week and getting paid next to nothing. He wanted his workers to be able to afford the cars they were making

[-] ComradeSpood@lemmyunchained.net 6 points 1 year ago

Except the Haymarket Affair, which is a massive reason why we have the 8hr day was back in 1886

[-] Bz2486@lemmy.world 116 points 1 year ago

Boo him? Do you have any idea how progressive this was at the time???

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago

That one thing was progressive.

The literal Nazi shit he got up to, on the other hand...

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 42 points 1 year ago

Right, but this post is literally just about that one thing.. If you want to boo him for the other shit you might want to bring the other stuff up as actual context in the image and repost it with the new context.

[-] dreadgoat@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

Ford is one of the most fascinating people in recent history, it's a shame to boil him down to "antisemitic car man"

Reading through his wiki is like :D D: :D D: :D D:
The guy was the definition of a mad genius. An authoritarian anti-war socially progressive union-buster. That description doesn't even make sense, but that's who he was.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

This also points to why private businesses are better than publicly traded businesses. Private business owners can do whatever the fuck they like, good or bad, meanwhile public businesses are legally obligated to pursue profits above all else on behalf of their shareholders.

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

The better option is the co-opt.

Workers owning the business and working to make it better for themselves.

[-] Beliriel@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Still more progressive than Switzerland to this day. They have normalized 42.5h workweek. You need to work 8.5 hours to be considered a fulltime employee.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

35 hour week ftw. Although many newer people I work with are on 37.5, they only get a half hour lunch.

[-] Flughoernchen@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Is a lunch break included here? In Germany it's the norm to work 40h, but (are obliged to) spend an additional 30 minutes there for lunch. So you're at work for 42,5h but only get paid for 40.

[-] Beliriel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Nope, lunch is not included and unpaid (unless specified in contract, but virtually no one pays for lunch). Effectively ypu're at work for 9.5 -10 hours.

[-] red@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's no such thing as a normalized workweek here in Switzerland. Most have 40-42h. The average are ~41h (edit: it seems that number is a few years old and it's now just shy of 40h - but it's too late in the evening to dig deeper). But yea, in certain jobs/industries, it can also be considerable more.

[-] Beliriel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True it's not nkrmalised. That's my bad. All companies I met had more than 40h a week though. And even when I worked in a government owned company it was 42.5h

[-] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago
[-] blackluster117@possumpat.io 115 points 1 year ago

Wasn't it seen as progressive and liberating at the time since it helped cement the existence of the weekend?

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago

Yeah, this was unheard of before.

Also, it's been 100 years. Can we shorten it again?

[-] justhach@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Right? We are literally in the 21st century, but still cling to the ideals and customs of the industrial revolution.

[-] spiderman@lemmy.fmhy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

i think 4 days work week is being tested on many places. would be cool if it becomes a norm.

[-] pragmakist@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Ford was innovative because he used the scientific method to find out how long the work-week should be from a factory-owners perspective.
And then he set it to that.
If you're a cog in a wheel in a factory that is still the ideal work-week from your owners perspective, sorry.

[-] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe working class people should have their welfare prioritized over the profits of capitalists. Just a thought.

[-] callyral@readit.buzz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

weekend wednesday with saturday and sunday also as weekends

[-] JayBaby@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Unions are the real reason we have anything as workers, we just give Ford the credit for propaganda purposes.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Unions and threats. The haymarket affair was for this too and it’s anniversary is Labor Day in most of the world

[-] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Considering the manufacturing work weeks used to be 12-15 hour days, 7 days a week, that's a hell of an improvement.

[-] 4am@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Not the gotcha you think it is, Zoomer

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

This is really fucking stupid.

[-] vegskret@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

People needed to have time to actually buy and drive the cars they were building

[-] metaStatic@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

tell that to the kids who made my shoes

[-] Gorbachof@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You bought them

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I used to tie an onion to my belt, that was the style in those days

[-] meteotsunami@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Which was the style at the time..

Get it right, Philistine :p

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

My memory is not what it used to be

[-] ComradeSpood@lemmyunchained.net 5 points 1 year ago

Haymarket Affair, which was a massive contributor to why we have the 8hr work day was in 1886

[-] ChatGPT@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I applaud him it’s was insanely generous at the time. Outdated for most of todays work but a 4 day type work week etc wouldn’t have even been thought possible at the time.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I remember when this happened, like yesterday

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

I don't know what's going on anymore

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