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I find that i can spot AI Images fairly easily these days, especially the sort of fantastical tableaus that get posted to the various AI communities around lemmy. I'm tired of seeing them; it all looks the same to me. Was wondering if im being too sensitive, or if other people are similarly bored of the constant unimaginative AI spam...

For the record, I block any explicit AI Art communities that pop up in the feed, but there are more every day...

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[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm fascinated by the range of discussion here, thanks to everyone for weighing in. Im particularly bemused by the discusssion of whether the subject even classifies as "art" which was not really the purpose of my question. I never questioned that it can still be called "art", even if I don't like it. However, a lot of commenters here seem to accuse the whole AI Art explosion as a charade; devoid of being in the conversation at all. Lot's to think about going forward. I still think it counts as art though...

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for raising this interesting topic. It is nice to discuss this matter together - even if our insights will have no influence at all on future developments. It is certainly a complex issue. If only because AI is not just image generation, or text generation. Not that I want to start a fundamental discussion here, but I think that one way or another this technology is in the world. So Pandora's box has already been opened; there will be no turning back. I think the most sensible thing Lemmy can do is find a workable way to deal with all the consequences. This is extremely difficult, as evidenced by the fact that even a multi-billion corporation like Google doesn't have the right answers (because of Google's business model, this company has to be interested in making its search results as useful as possible, because only market leadership promises the highest profits - and that's only possible if the usebility is somewhat right). Back on topic: I don't think that all the things that someone does with an AI image generator can pass as art at all, simply because a lot of it is nothing more than an attempt to create low-efford and therefore cost-effective reach. I hope and am reasonably convinced that this model won't work because it's completely transparent - little amount of time invested still results in poor quality content (or even just staight up plagiarism). On the other hand, I have the impression that many Lemmy users (and not only them) have a completely wrong impression: It is simply not possible to generate high-quality content within a few minutes using generative AI - well, it is but the result would just be plagiarism in most cases. These attempts are quite rightly rejected here. On the other hand, it is quite possible to create high-quality content with AI support that cannot even be recognized as such (and is not a plagiat in any known sence). However, this is not done in a matter of a few minutes, but requires considerable effort. Certainly less than designing/writing/whatever yourself from scratch; but still far more effort than copy/paste or the usual low-effort shitpost. So overall, I think the question should be less about whether content is AI-generated or not. The question should rather be whether it's good/helpful/informative/funny/.... content or not - if it is, you won't recognize that AI is in play anyway. I think everyone should be aware of that. Not because I think this is in any way fair or desirable, but because I think generative-AI-created or supportet content will dominate the internet in the future. I think the key question is how to make it at least somewhat fair for all those not compensated till day.

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[–] Cheers@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like ai art is getting better and better. I'm not necessarily interested in it, but when art/food/pet pics pop up on my feed, I was never looking for them either.

I think it's normal to hide them, but to feel bothered seems a bit drastic.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It is getting better and better. It’s to the point that if you are mocking it for bad hands, then you are actually out of touch with where it is now. Bad hands is almost a dead meme.

It’s weird how “old” earlier Midjourney stuff looks to me now.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It bothers me in the same way art done by children bothers me, which is to say not much, but it's usually pretty devoid of aesthetic value. Because they (AI, not children) draw on a huge variety of styles, they often also feel extremely generic, and like they don't have any style of their own.

Some of them have been kind of funny because the poster had some sort of decent comedic idea. I'm happier to see this type.

[–] assplode@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Some of them have been kind of funny because the poster had some sort of decent comedic idea. I’m happier to see this type.

I enjoy these as well. There are some really good ones I've seen.

The rand ones don't bother me

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

I dont mind it. Its fascinating.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Nah I think it can be cool and sometimes funny.

[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I posted a (labeled) AI-generated piece of art to a Star Trek shitposting community and a mod removed it because they didn't want AI generated images, even if labeled.

It didn't make me mad at all, I just found it interesting and kind of ironic

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Artists: don't gatekeep us. Allow us to explore and recreate in new medias in new ways.

Also artists: we alone get to decide what art is, what way it is created, and what media it is found.

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[–] littletranspunk@lemmus.org 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As long as they don't include something to the effect of "I made..." then I'm just mildly irritated at it.

If it does then I ask them what they made because I don't see it (since it wasn't them, it was AI)

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[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

I blocked ai communities wherever they showed up, it’s not that I hate it it just has no value to me, no substance. It’s like looking at one of billions of marginal steps some algorithm takes to refine itself.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Not at all. I think it's fascinating. The technology behind it is incredible and getting better every day. While I don't consider any AI-generated images to be "masterpieces" by any stretch of the imagination, they're interesting to study.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am ok with clearly-labeled posts that are in dedicated comms and occassionally enjoy examples of the shitshow that the models produce when they hallucinate. However, if the model is trained on works without authorization from and compensation to the creators of its training data, I find their use beyond ethically-questionable.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

I don’t really get it. Reminds me of the guys who’d send each other fractal images on floppy disks in the early 90s, which they must have got something out of, but to everyone else it’s just pictures of maths.

[–] Just_Pizza_Crust@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Just out of curiosity, which new ones have you seen today? I've noticed ai images being included in parts of memes, but it's mostly been as a replacement for low effort photoshopping.

[–] ani@endlesstalk.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AI art does not annoy me in social media because I find it fascinating and inspiring. I think AI art is a form of expression and innovation that showcases the potential and diversity of human and machine collaboration. I enjoy seeing how different people use AI art to create, share, and communicate their ideas, emotions, and visions. I also appreciate the challenges and opportunities that AI art poses for the artistic community and society at large.

AI art is not a threat or a replacement for human art, but rather a new medium and a new partner. AI art can help human artists to explore new possibilities, enhance their skills, and expand their audiences. AI art can also stimulate public interest and awareness of art, culture, and technology. AI art can be a source of beauty, joy, and wonder for everyone.

Source: Conversation with Bing, 1/20/2024

[–] stanka@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

In direct opposition to most of the comments here, I relly like it. Most of what I see are really good. I say this having done some and been unable to 'prompt engineer' much to my liking. Turns out it is harder than it looks (much like traditional art)

I like it, I like content and it doesn't take much for me to scroll past stuff I don't like.

Girl Talk was just a bunch of other peoples music smashed together, but it was undeniably its own art.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 1 year ago

As long as it's not being passed off as made by a human I don't care. Most of the AI art I see being posted is specifically to communities for posting AI art, anyway.

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not bothered. Just no longer impressed.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

To me, if they are contained to communities setup for AI generated images and there is some effort to mark or identify them as AI, I don't mind them. Its when they get posted outside those spaces, especially posing as something someone made, that it gets very annoying.

[–] Mathazzar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'm against AI-generated anything as a principal. I have too many friends in the art community who's primary form of income is the art they create.

I think I've become more jaded over time. I blacklist authors who use AI generated cover art, and I'm getting to the point that I want to do the same for games because I am so tired of hearing AI voices to replace characters, even if that character is an AI in the game.

Again, it doesn't stem from my hate of new technology, but rather the people being effected by that technology - the artists, voice actors, what have you. And also there's that thing where I do not want to talk to a chat robot for things.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

What communities are you subscribed to? Cause I don't have this problem when browsing All.

[–] lemmefixdat4u@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Can someone explain to me what the difference is between AI art and students imitating an artist? What happens when the AI actually gains the ability to experiment "outside the box" - what we call creativity?

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Then the copyright system needs to go away.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The one is done by a human, the other by machine. People are in general more interested in other humans doing things. We watch people play chess but not really machines, even though the later are better. We admire craftsmanship, but automated assembly line doing extreme precession work is just rather functional. I think it has something to do wit empathy and how we relate to other humans rather than to inanimate objects.

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