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Rolling Stone spoke with diehard Trump supporters who waited hours in the snow to watch the former president stump in New Hampshire

Fresh off a historic victory in the Iowa caucuses, former President Donald Trump traveled to New Hampshire and complained to his supporters that he had to leave the White House after losing the 2020 election.

Fans had lined up for hours outside in the snow for a chance to see the presumptive Republican nominee in person — excited over his Iowa win, appearing confident he will once again be president.

During his speech, Trump said it “was ridiculous that we had to leave, but we had to leave, we have to follow the laws of our land.” He quickly doubled down on his 2020 election lies: “They don’t investigate the people that cheated in the election. They investigate the people that understand they cheated and go after them. But they don’t investigate the people who cheated like hell. We have to have fair and free elections.”

Of course, Trump is being prosecuted for attempting to rig the 2020 election and overturn the results in key swing states — and as Rolling Stone has reported, he and his allies are working diligently to predetermine the results of the 2024 election and make sure they favor Trump.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 203 points 5 months ago

“He’s a family man,” Jerry Bolduc says about Trump. “He believes in God and in America first. And that’s what I’m all about.”

It's like his fans don't actually know the first thing about him...

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 81 points 5 months ago

or the second, third, fourth and fifth things.

The only thing that's true about Trump being a family man, is he wants to fuck his daughter. Which, to be honest, is rather biblical.

[-] Willy@sh.itjust.works 34 points 5 months ago

I heard an interview the other day where an Iowan trump supporter claimed that Trump was respected by the rest of the world. lol.

[-] teichflamme@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago

As someone from Europe, he's absolutely not lmao

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[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

Its so funny how he refuses to name his favorite/any known to him Bible verses. Refuses to be pinned down aha

[-] assembly@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

The funniest part is that he has had years to just memorize a few lines to make them happy and these people register so little to him that he can’t even bother to do the bare minimum.

[-] themadcodger@kbin.social 15 points 5 months ago

Except "woman, man, person, TV, camera" isn't in the Bible, so he was all out of space to learn anything else.

[-] assembly@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

LOL. There was so much batshit crazy shit during those four years I forgot about this one. Also just remembered the attempt at using a sharpie to redirect a hurricane.

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[-] numbermess@kbin.social 23 points 5 months ago

Everything that seems stupid or outrageous about Trump just clicks into place one you've accepted the mandatory foundational bullshit. These people didn't reason themselves into their position, they were looking for something to believe together. It's just too bad all that faith is wasted on this asshole.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

All faith is wasted. Believing in something without evidence is at best naive and at worst stupid.

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[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 months ago

They live in some sort of alternate reality where they are blind to facts, I just don't understand how they arrive at the conclusions they make. It just doesn't make any sense what so ever. It is going to be studied for generations as a warning for the rest of us.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

The worst part is, you can't tell them different. "Family man? You know he cheated on his pregnant wife with a porn star, right?"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-why-evangelicals-stick-with-trump-despite-stormy-daniels/

"Perhaps most astonishing, a recent YouGov poll found only half of Trump voters said Trump cheating on his wife with Stormy Daniels would be immoral, even if it did happen. After everything they've learned about him, 56 percent of Trump supporters believe the phrase "moral leader" describes the president either "very well" or "extremely well." "

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[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They can't say "I like abusing women and minorities and wish it was a more acceptable hobby so I'm voting Trump" -- the Unite the Right rally showed them that plausible deniability builds platforms and going mask off takes them away.

But they can say clearly bullshit things like this and everyone does them the favor of pretending they actually mean it.

If someone doesn't politely play along, they've been coached at how to manipulate their way out of it with by saying things like "the left just calls everyone they don't like a Nazi".

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[-] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

His supporters don't even know what they're about. They can't think on their own because they've been taught to follow without question.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 81 points 5 months ago

I never see anyone bring this up, and I truly understand that all of our logical arguments don't work on Trump's supporters, but election fraud at the level of a Presidential election? The fuck?!

What does that even look like? How was it done? How were several thousand key people, at the very least, convinced to fake it for Biden and yet no one has stepped forward in guilt? How has the entire Trump machine not been able to unearth the slightest bit of evidence?

One redditor broke it down succinctly in 2020, "We're smart enough to have faked it and didn't eliminate Mitch McConnell?!" These people literally don't understand that all those votes are scored on the same ballots.

I can go on all night, but I know this, Bill Clinton couldn't get a bj in the Oval Office and keep it quiet.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 38 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

He made up stories in 2016 that Hillary bussed in millions of immigrants to vote in California, which is why he lost the state no republican has won since Bush the first, who was riding high on Regan's afterglow.

The pure raw logistics of bussing millions of people anywhere, for any reason, especially on the same day is mind boggling. Pretending that it was done in a stunningly populous state during an election and no one anywhere had any proof of it when ubiquitous camera phones exist, when he already won the election, was mind blowing.

Thats where his lies come from. Pure, raw unchecked ego, with no connection to the world itself. His base wants to believe, so they do, and they more they do, the more he can lie about. Rinse, repeat, until we are now at la la land.

[-] BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

Honestly the craziest part of that lie, to me, was how electable it should have made Hillary sound. She led the coordination of a million person movement in one day for a major event, at so low a cost that it was unnoticeable in any budget, and so seamlessly that no one noticed it happening at the time? That makes her sound like a logistical and strategic badass.

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

He made up stories in 2016 that Hillary bussed in millions of immigrants to vote in California, ...

Math!

  • If a coach bus carries 60 passengers, and there are two million people ("millions") to be bussed, that would require 33,334 buses.
  • Since each bus requires a driver, that means 33,334 bus drivers.
  • At 45 feet per bus, that's over 284 miles of buses.
  • If the buses get 6 miles per gallon, and each bus needs to travel a mere 60 miles, that's a total fuel usage of 333,340 gallons of fuel.
  • Gas and diesel were both around $2.75 a gallon in 2016, which means that the fuel cost alone for this very generous hypothetical scenario would be $916,685.00.
[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

And the easiest way to bust that conspiracy is to ask:

Why send them all to blue California, and not to any red states?

Do you know how many low-populations states like Wyoming and the Dakotas could be flipped blue with just a few tens of thousands more Democratic voters? It makes no sense to send them to a state you're already going to win, when you can thin them out and win several states

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[-] kromem@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

You're talking about people who literally think there's body doubles ruling the country or second military systems with one controlled by Biden and another still by Trump.

The education entrance polling for the Iowa caucuses was eye opening, even being in line with what I expected.

Have a post-graduate degree? 75% Voted for someone other than Trump.

Didn't go to college? 75% Trump.

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

"I love the poorly educated"

[-] KnowledgeableNip@leminal.space 7 points 5 months ago

Not enough non-white representation to be properly aggregated.

Hard stance against immigration.

His support of 'people like them' captures 80% of reasons why they're voting.

It all adds up to them disliking people they have no actual interaction with because the news makes them scary. Just raw, unashamed bigotry marching for the Oval.

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 77 points 5 months ago

It's ridiculous he was there in the first place.

[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 21 points 5 months ago

And it's about to happen again because ideologically "pure" leftists constantly fall for right-wing propaganda and fail to understand the real world impacts of harm reduction.

Isn't life in the 21st century just so fucking grand?

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

we have to follow the laws of our land

Yeah, but you don't.

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

He quickly doubled down on his 2020 election lies: “They don’t investigate the people that cheated in the election. They investigate the people that understand they cheated and go after them. But they don’t investigate the people who cheated like hell. We have to have fair and free elections.”

wut

[-] Huschke@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Don't you understand? If you don't vote for him you're obviously too dumb to understand that you cheated.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

Yeah, the law and the Constitution. So ridiculous to have it applied to special snowflakes like Orange Jesus, too.

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[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Traitor swine needs to be locked the fuck up.

[-] PorradaVFR@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

“Historic Iowa victory”. He won 51% out of some 110k votes. In 2020 he won 98% of far more votes there.

Yeah he won, but it’s not the anointment it’s being reported as being. The result suggest many GOP voters sitting out or preferring options.

That said they WILL coalesce around the nominee because they always do while the left will still be cats in a bag.

[-] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 months ago

Ok, sure man, whatever you say, old man screaming at the cloud.

[-] ratcliff@lemmy.wtf 12 points 5 months ago

I thought he said it was a dump

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Gods, among all the other bullshit, I had forgot that quote.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Fresh off a historic victory in the Iowa caucuses, former President Donald Trump traveled to New Hampshire and complained to his supporters that he had to leave the White House after losing the 2020 election.

Fans had lined up for hours outside in the snow for a chance to see the presumptive Republican nominee in person — excited over his Iowa win, appearing confident he will once again be president.

Dozens of Trump supporters stood outside the venue for hours Tuesday as heavy snow fell, leaving thick ice on attendees’ cars.

During his speech, Trump expressed confidence he’ll win New Hampshire next week, but he called on his supporters to help him build a significant margin of victory.

“Nikki Haley is counting on the Democrats and liberals to infiltrate your Republican primary,” Trump warned during his speech Tuesday, adding it is “artificially boosting her numbers here.”

The pro-Trump super PAC Make America Great Again Inc. has been running ads in New Hampshire attacking Haley on immigration, using language similar to the Adolf Hitler-like “poisoning the blood” rhetoric Trump has employed on the campaign trail.


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