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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Kakao in the near future, trying to handle Tachiyomi forks:

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm assuming this one is because he's just going to tell them to fuck off.

There's no legal basis to take it down.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Perhaps Mihon will tell Kakao to fuck off. But if Mihon doesn't, someone else will. [Plus I wanted an excuse to post a cute kitten .gif]

There’s no legal basis to take it down.

Even when there's no legal basis, a corporation is better prepared to potentially lose a legal battle than a bunch of amateurs are to potentially win it. It's a form of corporate trolling - "both of us know that you'd win if you fought, but also that you won't fight".

That works fine if you're a corporation dealing with one group that dares to stand between you and the money. But it fails if used over and over, as eventually one group will say "you want a bloody legal battle mate? We're focking getting one."

[–] Xanvial@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Quick scanning of the repo, Mihon didn't host or even mention the extension to read external source. So it basically just an application platform. If Kodi still survive, I think this will too.

The mistake of tachiyomi is putting the extension to read piracy website together with the base application

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tachiyomi is a fancy web browser. This is like suing Google because chrome can be used to access pirated content.

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[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Hilariously, I'd never heard of any of this stuff until this company decided to Streisand the fuck out of themselves.

And the best part is that they went after the container instead of the content, so all they did was make their problem even worse...

[–] shatterling@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Thanks OP, an FYI you can restore a Tachiyomi backup from Mihon to migrate straight across 👍

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[–] autokludge@programming.dev 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Excellent, have been watching this.

Warning from the release:

Beware of any new fake versions of Mihon or Tachiyomi.

[–] Nugelz@programming.dev 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone got any good extension repos? I'm more into western comics than manga

[–] Vineyard8927@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Lemmchen@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How trustworthy are those extensions? I see they are APKs.

[–] Xanvial@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

All of tachiyomi extensions are APKs since a long time ago. Previously we just trust it because it's hosted by tachiyomi itself. So you should still worry about the trustworthiness because it's hosted by unrelated person, but shouldn't because it's apk.

Maybe in the future Mihon should implement support for non-apk extensions, but for now we can only use that

[–] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Lemmchen@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Nugelz@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you, have made a post this now

[–] Lemmchen@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Fisch@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I just opened an issue to add it to IzzyOnDroid's repo

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

That's fast, I just looked at the GitHub repo this morning and didn't see anything there

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you're gonna wanna get off GitHub fast

[–] JStenoien@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Why? Nothing about the previous situation had anything to do with it being on github.

[–] Cameri@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Cut off one head of the Hydra and another two grow in its place.

[–] SBS1313@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The extensions seem still untrusted even after reinstalling. Does it need third party extensions??

Edit: will extensions be updated??

[–] jjagaimo@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Browse> extensions>tap shield>trust

worked for me

[–] SBS1313@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I did that but what i meant is that when will it stop or when will it restore back to not sending errors anymore...

[–] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, it needs third party extensions.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's the difference then?

Is it the same software, a rebrand, a publishing team change?

[–] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

It's a fork.

[–] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Lawyers went after Tachi Devs, Devs abandon Tachi, new Devs forked Tachi and made Mihon.

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[–] Kazumara@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought this was supposed to be here: https://git.mihon.dev/mihon, without github

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Probably mirror.
Maintainer is the same.

[–] plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Anyone know why the change? I'm aware that they were being targeted but I thought removing the extensions had appeased the kcorp.

[–] reddthat@reddthat.com 31 points 1 year ago

The devs just said fuckit afterwards, as you do when you get a lawsuit saying your about to be so far in debt because of your side project that your whole life will be turned up side down.

I would have done the same.

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Kakao (or whatever they're called) were going after everyone involved, so Tachiyomi has been deprecated, one of the devs forked it and will continue development.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Mihon is from the tachiyomiSY devs, ick if they are the same but from a glance they are different.

[–] lupec@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Why ick? Guess I'm out of the loop on that one

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[–] johnlobo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

official tachiyomi is dead

[–] Klystron@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tachij2kfriends, I saw the mihon dev post somewhere that tachij2k shouldn't be used anymore. Is there a reason for that? Everything is still working on my end, and until it doesn't I intend to just keep using tachij2k unless there's a good reason not to. I also read somewhere that the Dev for j2k said he was gonna make some changes, but I wasn't able to verify that... Anyone know anything more? Thanks

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

If it works on your end, no reason to stop using it. The reason they suggested to move elsewhere is because, at the time, there was no indication that j2k had any plans for continued development. Might've changed since they put that out, but that's what they sajd

[–] IdleSheep@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The reason the Mihon de said that is because j2k is using an older tachiyomi base iirc. Updates on it have been on the slower side.

It's still being actively worked though (as far as I know) and it still works fine, so there's no reason to switch off of it for now. If Jay does drop it then you should move onto mihon or its forks (TachiyomoSY and TachiyomiAZ will be based off of mihon in future versions).

[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

ACDAB - All Corporate Dogs Are Bastards

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

~~If anyone's wondering why Mihon looks slightly different than Tachiyomi, the reason is this is a fork of TachiyomiSY, which has some changes/features over Tachiyomi (e.g. a predicted next chapter release date).~~

What I wrote is all wrong. I've just looked through the commit history and Mihon is a fork of Tachiyomi and currently it doesn't have any changes besides branding and being Android 8+.

I don't know why I believed otherwise, but it might be F-Droids 3 months old Tachiyomi build, which lacked many features compared to up-to-date TachiyomiSY.

[–] Xanvial@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Latest version of tachiyomi also has prediction of next release

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Sorry, I'm super tech/software illiterate, can someone explain how to transfer what I had on tachiyomi over tonthis new app?

[–] jjagaimo@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago

Rn it's just reskinned tachiyomi so export backup > import backup in mihon

[–] Ralis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

It's simple. Go to Tachiyomi and create a backup. Then, in Mihon, during the first setup, it should give an option to restore backup. You can also resotre backup in Mihon settings, then go to extensions and (trust) the restored extensions.

It's pretty much the same app at its core. So no need to change file names or formats. Everything should transfer.

[–] Okigotitnow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When is tachiyomi expected to not function anymore?

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For now it should work but it will have an increasing likelihood of breaking with every future Android Update.

Migrating to Mihon now is recommended, one of the devs worked on Tachiyomi and for now the code is almost identical which allows easy migration via a Tachiyomi Backup.

Migrating in the future might be more difficult because incompatibility between Tachiyomi and future versions of Mihon could mean Backups from Tachiyomi cannot be restored by Mihon.

[–] Okigotitnow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Great point! Thank you for this insight

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