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submitted 10 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Lots of Americans say they are prepared to vote against President Joe Biden in November. Among the many reasons seems to be a persistent belief that Biden has accomplished “not very much” or “little or nothing” (according to an ABC-Washington Post poll from the summer), or that his policies have actually hurt people (according to a Wall Street Journal poll from last month).

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I suspect most Americans do grasp that Biden supports and wants to strengthen “Obamacare,” while his likely opponent ― i.e., Trump, currently the GOP front-runner ― still wants to get rid of it. But most Americans seem unaware that Biden and the Democrats have also been working to make insulin cheaper, through a pair of changes that are already taking effect.

The first of these arrived as part of the Inflation Reduction Act, the sweeping 2022 climate and health care legislation that included several initiatives to reduce the price of prescription drugs. Among them was a provision guaranteeing that Medicare beneficiaries ― that is, seniors and people with disabilities ― could get insulin for just $35 a month.

The provision took effect a year ago and, at the time, the administration estimated that something like 1.5 million seniors stood to save money from it. Indeed, there’s already evidence that fewer seniors are rationing their own insulin in order to save money. But as of August, polling from the health research organization KFF found that just 24% of Americans knew the $35 cap existed.

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As of Jan. 1, the three companies that dominate the market (Eli Lilly, Novo Nordisk and Sanofi) have all lowered prices and made some of their products available to non-elderly, non-disabled Americans for the same $35 a month that Medicare beneficiaries now pay. The companies announced these changes last year, presenting them as a voluntary action to show they want to make sure customers can get lifesaving drugs.

But by nearly all accounts, it was primarily a reaction to an obscure policy change in Medicaid, the joint federal-state program for low-income people. The effect of the tweak was to penalize drug companies financially if they had been raising commercial prices too quickly.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 96 points 10 months ago

It's not JUST insulin though. Diabetes runs in my family, so I grew up experiencing all the highs and lows. (HA! BEETUS JOKE!)

EVERYTHING about managing it is expensive. The needles are expensive, the test strips are STUPID expensive, as are the meters and CGM systems.

Imagine this... you're a type 1 and have to test multiple times a day.

$38 for 90 strips. Now that doesn't sound AWFUL, does it? Except a type 1 is supposed to test at least 4 times a day... Suddenly those 90 strips aren't even a full months supply. I've seen folks test 6 times a day, now that 90 strips lasts 15 days.

And $38 for 90 is CHEAP. They can easily run $1 a strip.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 69 points 10 months ago

This is a great step forward. You can't change the majority of pharmaceutical companies overnight, but it's fantastic that it is finally changing.

Regulation. For all the people that are going to argue that regulation is bad, regulation means forestalling the inevitable profit driven greed of corporate pharmacy.

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[-] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 10 months ago

This article feels a little like a backhanded compliment.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 18 points 9 months ago

Yes, i really dislike the articles tone, as if we are children. Overall vibe is like Mom telling me how good broccoli is for me and anyhow im not eaving till i eat it anyway so id better get going before it gets cold

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@kbin.social 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! AFFORDABLE LIFE SAVING MEDICINE IS SOCIALISMMM!!!1"

-GQP

[-] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

HISSSS....SOCIALISM!!! lol

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

FOX NEWS ALERT: BIDEN INCREASES PRICE OF INSULIN!

NEWSMAX BREAKING NEWS: VOTING FOR BIDEN CAUSES TYPE I DIABETES!

[-] snownyte@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago

If there's anything I've learned in the past several presidencies in my life time. Voters tend to disregard the beneficial efforts one president makes because of their party background. So even if Biden did this tremendous achievement, it's still going to be watered down by the Republican cultists because it wasn't a Republican who did this. They would've preferred a Republican to charge people $1,000 or more for insulin and while being told to be pulling up the boot straps to make the costs.

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[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Bbubut he's 80 and cognitively impaired!

/s

[-] Yewb@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Lets socialize pharmaceutical production these fucks are literally killing us and holding back life saving treatments for corporate profits.

[-] hanni@lemmy.one 9 points 10 months ago
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[-] Thann@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago

Yeah, IDK if helping less than 1% of Americans is enough. If it makes sense for insulin why doesn't it make sense for every other drug that big pharma has exorbitant prices for?

[-] forrgott@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

Well, any actual path from here to there can only be traveled one step at a time.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Cheaper for Boomers? Fucking goodie.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

Turns out Republicans are very efficient manipulators.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Or Democrats absolutely suck at messaging.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago
[-] mlg@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Many people who need insulin aren’t on Medicare, of course. But now, non-Medicare patients also have access to cheaper insulin, thanks to the way another policy implementation has played out.

As of Jan. 1, the three companies that dominate the market (Eli Lilly, Novo Nordisk and Sanofi) have all lowered prices and made some of their products available to non-elderly, non-disabled Americans for the same $35 a month that Medicare beneficiaries now pay. The companies announced these changes last year, presenting them as a voluntary action to show they want to make sure customers can get lifesaving drugs.

But by nearly all accounts, it was primarily a reaction to an obscure policy change in Medicaid, the joint federal-state program for low-income people. The effect of the tweak was to penalize drug companies financially if they had been raising commercial prices too quickly.

“This is a smart PR move and to some extent a response to market pressure... but drug companies are not lowering insulin prices to be generous,” KFF executive vice president Larry Levitt told me in an email. “They’re lowering prices to avoid paying rebates to Medicaid programs and therefore maximize profits.”

So if you're not old or poor, continue to pay hundreds in either scam insurance fees or scam MSRP insulin prices lol.

Also I could be wrong, but I believe the old (medi-X) price was around $50-$60. So at least that's an improvment.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Still doesn't negate him condoning and funding genocide, funding endless proxy war and starting another, and telling us we are not struggling while ignoring our pleas.

Listening to the masses? That's the first step towards communism, you godless commie. listening to what the property and business owners say is what the fondant fathers and jesus died for

[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

O let us love our occupations,

Bless the squire and his relations,

Live upon our daily rations,

And always know our proper stations.

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[-] oakey66@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

All of meds went down since the beginning of the new year. Some of them significantly.

[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

1/4th of Americans know about it? That sounds like a lot considering it's something that impacts far fewer than that.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

this narrative of "joe biden is actually great for everyone it's just that everyone is too stupid to notice how great they have it" while we're slowly being muscled out of the economy sounds like a french aristocrat's last plea from the scaffold.

[-] Pizza_Rat@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago
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[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

would have rather he followed through with that campaign promise to offer a public option health insurance plan like Medicare

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/biden-promise-tracker/promise/1558/offer-public-option-health-insurance-plan-medicare/

instead we get the quarter ass version of all his campaign promises if at all

[-] MicroWave@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

According to your link, he did try to follow through and got shut down in the Senate:

President Barack Obama envisioned a public option as a key part of his health insurance reform law, but gave up on it during negotiations with opponents in Congress. As a presidential candidate, Biden proposed adding the public option as a way to fix the shortcomings of the Affordable Care Act.

But for all the attention the public option got during the campaign, it has faded from the Democratic agenda on Capitol Hill.

With Democrats barely controlling the Senate, and universal opposition to his agenda from GOP senators, Biden has had to rely on a special procedure known as "budget reconciliation" to bypass the filibuster and pass his agenda.


EDIT: Adding this video interview of his administration talking about working behind the scenes to negotiate the public option with the Senate. Relevant portion starts at 1:25.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Where in that quote does it say that Biden tried anything to try to follow through on the public option?

The next two paragraphs go on to say (emphasis mine):

The Biden administration has used the reconciliation process to pursue two bills: a coronavirus and economic relief bill called the American Rescue Plan, which passed on a party-line vote weeks after Biden was inaugurated, and a safety net expansion bill known as the Build Back Better bill, which is currently pending in the Senate following passage in the House.

Neither of these bills included the public option.

The only thing Biden has done about the public option is make promises he had no intention of even pursuing, let alone keeping.

[-] MicroWave@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Check out this video interview of his administration working behind the scenes to negotiate the public option with the Senate. The part you need to see starts at 1:25. In the end, it just didn't have Senate support.

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[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A public option would be impossible to pass through reconciliation rules. All that process can do is allocate money. A law creating a public insurance option would need to be passed the normal way, which means controlling the house at the same time as either getting a super majority in the senate or ending the filibuster. Or you know alternatively, even a small minority of Republicans not being horrible and breaking a filibuster. They wouldn't even have to vote for it, just agree to allow debate to end so a vote can go through.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconciliation_(United_States_Congress)

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[-] ares35@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago

without a cooperative congress, that cannot happen. you want a public option? you want full single-payer tax funded comprehensive health care for all? student debt relief? no-cost public school lunches? ubi? higher taxes on the wealthy?

you already know what to do. congress needs to go hard left--and stay there. vote progressive in primaries, vote democrat in generals. every. single. time.

[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

not able to vote

my right to vote was taken due to laws and policies crafted by politicians over the years

one of those politicians are now running the country with a prosecutor

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