West Virginia Bill Would Mandate "Curing" Trans People Of Being Trans Under 21 (www.erininthemorning.com)

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It's basically a conversion therapy mandate. wtf

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[-] coradora@beehaw.org 53 points 9 months ago

It’s genocide: forcibly transferring children of one group (trans) into another (cis). And also adults under 21 because freedom!

It’s fucking sad that at the same time this is happening, the US is denying the genocide happening right now in Palestine. We are too busy trying not to acknowledge the genocidal actions of our ancestors that we are also not acknowledging the needless, indiscriminate death we are exporting to the world in various regions of the world today.

I feel for all my trans siblings stuck in these awful states. Also, fuck yeah South Africa!

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 9 months ago

The bill is one of several proposed in West Virginia this year. Another bill, Senate Bill 195, would target transgender people as being “obscene” and would bar “transgender exposure, performances, or display” to any minor. This could have the effect of barring transgender people from being able to exist in public, as it would be difficult to avoid being seen as a transgender person by a minor. Speaking to this bill, Orr stated, “This is a blatant attempt to criminalize and erase the trans community of West Virginia.”

I honestly can’t find anything to say about these two bills that doesn’t feel overly doomer. It’s probably unenforceable showboating for election season… but plenty of cops aren’t going to know or care. Plenty of MAGA shitheads walking around getting offended by any gender nonconformity are going to see these bills for what they are: a green light to make life even worse for trans people.

It’s weird being at this intersection of “things have improved so much in the past 20 years” and “things have gotten SO drastically worse in the past 2 years”.

[-] EsteeBestee@beehaw.org 19 points 9 months ago

I don't think you'd be overly doomer to be worried about this. You hit the nail on the head that the scariest part of this is that it lets cops do whatever the fuck they want even more (or allows maga fucks to go extrajudicial). It's just one more legal way for asshats to discriminate against minorities. If this passes, sure, if you're trans in WV, you won't likely be arrested just by going outside, but you bet your ass some cops will probably be willing to assault or arrest you for the smallest shit, or that if anybody assaults you for being trans, they can probably get away with it. If a bill like this passes, it would be wise for all trans people in WV to leave if they can, even if it doesn't mean that trans people are going to be arrested on sight, necessarily.

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago

The non-doomer approach is that it's blatantly and obviously unconstitutional, even from this SCOTUS. Similar laws have already been struck down. Performance of gender is generally understood to be speech, and thus largely immune from government regulation via the 1st Amendment.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 4 points 9 months ago

They should go a step further and bar all "~~trans~~gender exposure, performances, or display"... now that would be fun to see.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 9 months ago

No, you're missing how normal this is.

The bill is broken into sections to target different aspects of transgender care. One section defines being transgender as “sexual deviation” and places it alongside “pedophilia, exhibitionism, masochism, sadomasochism, fetishism,” and more. Another defines minors for the purposes of this bill as being anyone under 21 years of age, expanding the definition to include transgender adults.

Isn't this exactly what you think of when you think of trans people? I know I think they fuck children and probably even animals and shouldn't be considered people at age 18, let alone ever. /s

Wtf is going on in this shithole.

[-] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 18 points 9 months ago

Someone should write a bill to mandate a 'cure' for stupid, starting with political leaders. At least that cure has a chance for success. When are these idiots going to realize there's no 'cure' for being the person that you are?

[-] BadEngineering@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

I'm not a violent person, but with draconian laws like these being put forth seemingly everyday, It feels like a time is approaching that the only recourse trans people will have is to try and cure conservatism with bullets. I for one refuse to be rounded up into camps and forced into the "showers" by these religious fascists.

[-] hellfire103@sopuli.xyz 15 points 9 months ago

If this goes through, we will have simultaneous genocides running in the third, second, and first worlds.

I have half a mind to crosspost this to !collapse@lemmy.ml.

[-] RadioRat@beehaw.org 4 points 9 months ago

Shit like this is so heinous. Gender dysphoria hits hard enough it’s really hard to establish a career (or even function) without transitioning. Heart really goes out to trans youth - it’s never been more likely to find out you’re trans while young and now it’s fucking politicized.