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I really enjoy programming with AI agents. This is the closest I’ve ever come to having magical superpowers. Today’s AI is already smart, capable, resourceful and agentic enough to bring me joy.

This post is about the flip side of that: for most people I know, this fun turns into a death march. We have these powerful tools, but we feel more exhausted and overworked than ever. We ship more, but enjoy it less.

Source: https://frantic.im/bottleneck/

Sure thing you got disappointed - you chose not to train your mind, your confidence, your attitude… to stay self-sufficient and actually treasure achievements to be proud of. No. You chose to outsource, to depend, and to atrophy yourself and your history, where no names exist but tokens.

Congratulations. You damaged your own history.

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[–] jtrek@startrek.website 19 points 22 hours ago

There's a thing in our culture where we simultaneously tell people to work hard, and to become the guy at the top who doesn't work.

CEOs and managers and such often don't really do much work. They're not in the weeds making the thing go. They don't spot that O(n^2) algorithm and fix it so the site doesn't go down under load. They send a message that says "site seems slow", and someone actually fixes it.

This is a problem all over. The people we let make decisions aren't the people doing the work. They don't know how things work.

AI creates a smaller version of this. It turns you into an idiot leader, but without the benefit of taking all the profits from labor.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Interesting. Commissioning work / outsourcing it to other entities has rarely felt like a superpower to me. I mean it's a valuable skill to have. And we need something like project management who "only" manage stuff and not do the actual work. But I frequently feel people who do the hands-down work are the ones with superpowers. Or people who do things without a lot of resources at hand. The more I delegate, the less I feel like I contributed and it was my superpower which made something happen?!

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm not part of this community and came here from the front page, but I gotta say - I do sometimes feel unreal working with codex. It solves issues in such a short time that I would not know where even to start. Then again, I'm not doing it for profit or to create stuff, but simply to solve issues and advance some DIY projects.

Last night, before going to sleep, I got tired of trying to find and fix an issue in BeamNG with a large (1GB) mod where a car constantly failed to spawn for career. I asked it to try and fix it, took only 2 minutes, I thought to myself "bullshit". Tested it and the fix worked.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 3 points 21 hours ago

Yes, certainly feels unreal. I really don't know what to feel. I mean on the one hand it generates lots of actually working code and boilerplate stuff. On the flipside it's often messy and convoluted and I struggle to stay at the top of it. And I think the people who compare it to a slot machine have a point. I'll end up in situations where it'll either accomplish astonishing stuff. Or it'll go on some crazy wild goose chase with me for like 2h straight. You never know.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

How do you verify it didn’t break something else or introduce security or stability issues?

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Trial and error. So far, the only issues I've encountered are small oversights, not critical errors.

I did try working with codex (I think I used ChatGPT back then?) some 16 months ago, and half of the things I wanted to do ended up in a mess. Astra is the first one that seems to be actually somewhat usable (edit: but it's also like 10-20x more expensive, I run into limits under 20€ subscription quite fast)

On related note - It makes me uncomfortable to admit this, but the progress blows my mind away and it makes me uncomfortable, by now I truly believe it's there to stay and will make so many jobs obsolete. I was part of the AI hating club 1 month ago, and cognitive dissonance is real

[–] Nordon@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

You can read the code that it changed for starters. A lot of AI hate comes from not actually reviewing their work.

2nd if it was a config issue. LLMs are fantastic at parsing an error log and tracking it back to a config issue. If it actually had to write code then it depends on if you actually read what it did.