Bolsonaro quickly refused to concede defeat and asked for the election results to be annulled
What a little bitch.
this post was submitted on 26 Oct 2026
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Why are these little fascists always sore loosers?
When you're against democracy, it would be weird to respect the democratic process. Fascists will always try to circumvent the rules as long as they're not in their favour, simply because fascists don't respect anyone but themselves.
"If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism; they will abandon democracy."
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You Americans better fucking vote like the Brazilians. Congrats Lula and carry on exporting and filling the massive holes the MAGA fucknuts opened for you.
Unfortunately the majority of deputies and senators are from Bolsonaro's party. Lula's win was a huge victory, but we still have a lot to fight for here in Brazil.
The good thing is that Lula's party learned how to comunicate through social media, this helped him TREMENDOUSLY in his victory.
Good things democrats are running ads throwing trans people into the meat grinder for no reason. When they don’t even have to talk about trans people when they should be talking about the fact that Donald Trump has raped children and has ducked the ENTIRE economy. But Dems are going to do there best to try and shit brain themselves out of a sure fire victory.
Edit: Also congratulations to Brazil from an embattled American.
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Why is it always the right wingers that are the worst losers?
Right wing philosophy boils down to "obey me or else".
The origin of the words left and right in a political context comes from the French Revolution. Specifically from the events of the Estates General, and the writing of the failed constitution of 1789.
The first vote, "Should the Monarch have an absolute veto over laws passed?" was determined by seating. Those in favor (the nobility and clergy from the richer areas) sat to the right of the speaker's podium, those opposed (people who wanted democracy, which included the some of the country nobles, country clergy, and the near entirety of the third estate) sat to the left.
This pattern repeated on most questions, those who supported monarchy sat to the right, democracy to the left. The newspapers, which were recently completely freed of censorship, started using left and right as shorthand for the two sides.
The philosophers then stepped in. Tomas Paine and Edmund Burke for two English language examples. Paine actually traveled to France and served in the legislature, despite not speaking French. Edmund Burke stayed in England and wrote about how the masses needed to be controlled by their betters, who should be selected not by birth, but by wealth. Burke was not a noble, but he was rich.
Edmund Burke is the father of Conservatism. He was somewhat explicit that the thing he wanted to conserve, was power over others. Later writers have obfuscated things a bit, but if you look, the message is the same.
So, when a right-winger loses, it's someone who really wants unchecked control over others being told to fuck off.
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If they possessed the ability to be mature they wouldn’t be right wingers in the first place.
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81 year old? Can't a generation just fucking die already?
Should have seen him at the debate. He was running circles around Bolsonaro, at thirty years his junior.
Being a fascist is bad enough, being an incompetent fascist is more than bad enough.
Now being an incompetent fascist that get's humiliated against someone as old as trump is downright sad.
I agree but still better than a Trump aligned person winning. Anyone in that pool is like voting for the end times. Basically authoritarian types, anything must be better than them, even an old dude.Ill add that I know almost nothing except who Trump wanted to win and they're bitching about results, the Trump way, oh also think the loser vamoosed recently, to the well known sanctuary of the United States. Oh good job we know how much they enjoy immigrants.....he has money? Oh pardon my faux pas.
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« This is unacceptable, we the far right cheated but not enough… We should cancel the election results so I could win with my us oligarchs friends and pardon my corrupt father. “ said bolsonaro.
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Electronic voting is such a liability for exactly this reason, it gives bad actors plausible doubt to throw on an election result.
Pen/pencil and paper. Much more secure.
Edit: to newer commenters. Please watch these excellent videos.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LkH2r-sNjQs
And no, I am not supporting the Nazis. I'm saying the whole reason electronic voting is stupid is because it makes it easier for them to plausibly claim the vote was rigged. Because it is easier than with properly conducted paper voting.
And that just because previous elections in Brazil conducted with paper voting were less secure, isn't an argument for electronic voting.
Also edit to add, being un-networked will not protect you from state actors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet
this was literally the narrative to try and make them less secure by the bolsonaros when they were in power. the brazilian voting machine is actually state of the art and they know it.
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Lost me on that. Pen and paper aren't at all more secure than Brazilian voting machines.
They are essentially low spec linux computers without ports, internet acess or easy way in. The only thing they do it store results and print them on paper.
Even if one manages to crack open a machine and sneak something inside, there is security to prevent it to pass as genuine
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There was a saying in Brazil, up to the 90s, that "elections are won in the counting" - fraud was rampant, especially at municipal/state level and the electronic urns got rid of that.
Paper can only be considered more secure if you have special paper and special printing like money bills, otherwise they can be falsified much more easily.
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Here's a playbook of the Rights response to this.
- Say he cheated. Over and over and over and over again.
- Be completely unwilling to accept actual evidence that proves there was no cheating.
- Act outraged and suggest or imply that physical violence is an acceptable response.
- Never ever, ever admit you were and are wrong.
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Brazil and Serbia. Good on them. America, you're up. I would include Israel but even the best possible government there fucking sucks balls.
if only we got some of this in Hong Kong....
I'd prefer it if someone other than Lula could keep the fascists out of power. Still, it bought Brazil a few more years.
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Good
A couple of things to understand about Brazilian elections:
- Voting is mandatory for all citizens aged 18-70, though failing to vote nets you a 4 BRL fine (less than a dollar)^[I understand people who would rather have it be non mandatory, but think about a criminal group ensuring only "their people" go out to vote. With optional voting, it gets easier for them to ensure victory. This would be a real situation in many cities in Brazil, where said criminal groups already do everything in their power to ensure "their guys" get elected.]
- Every Brazilian citizen has an ID with photo (I've only recently learned that USA doesn't have something like a nationwide ID);
- Election happens on a sunday and people who have to work on said day can ask to leave for 2 hours in order to vote;
- Voting is standardized and organized at a federal level, even for municipal voting. The electoral tribunals exist solely for dealing with elections;
- The majority of funds spent on campaigns come from the electoral fund, which is distributed to parties according to how many elected deputies, senators and governors they have (a great way to ensure big parties stay rich and well funded). Up until 2014, corporations could still donate to campaigns. After that, only citizens may donate and only up to 10% of their earnings.
- The electronic urns are audited before and after elections^[This isn't a "we self audited ourselves" situation, in case you're wondering. Universities, Federal Police, Army and several other entities, public and private, can take part in the audit], they are completely offline and save votes to an internal disk. Since their inception, despite many claims, no fault or fraud has ever been found on the hardware or software. Even fucking bozo and his flunkies couldn't find any security breach back in 2022, while he was in power.
- With how urns are distributed, it's easy to account if the total amount of registered votes is equal to the amount of voters that showed up. This first verification is done once voting time is over by the 4 poll workers that care for each urn/section.
- Voters have to do both ID and biometric verification (fingerprint) before voting
- No cell phones or kids go in the booth with you (take a wild guess why "no kids")
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