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[–] Brum@lemmy.world 134 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Eh. Bioware died a long time ago.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 114 points 1 week ago

Alternate headline:

“The reanimated corpse of your loved one is now at peace.”

[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 60 points 1 week ago

Right. Sucks for the people working there, but the BioWare we miss was already gone, so it doesn't hurt that much.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Yeah when EA purchased them.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

ThatsTheJoke.jpg

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[–] ItWasTheDNS@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Yeah, but now we miss out on playing a rushed mass effect game and getting to complain about it not measuring up for a couple weeks. Now I have to find something new to do in August 2027

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[–] Nobody@anarchist.nexus 119 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I keep hearing that EA isn’t responsible for this, because BioWare games have gone to shit recently. Does anyone honestly believe that EA’s takeover, corporate culture, and demands on the studio didn’t contribute to the drop in quality?

EA and other corpos’ death grip doesn’t start at the end when it all falls apart. The death grip is there from the moment you sell.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

BioWare itself was a corporation, and that's the problem. It ruined itself just as much as EA ruined it.

An outcome like this is inevitable when your goal is infinitely compounding returns on investments.

[–] tankfox@bookwyr.me 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

We should just go after all the money of the people who sell the studios. Everyone always forgets that for every game studio Equity Almighty destroys there's a former owner sitting on a fat pile of cash that a whole group of people worked together to build, 120% tax on all assets of the assholes who traded a cool company for a pile of cash from the most evil people in the world.

We used to hate the sellouts for being sellouts. Now they just aren't talked about, like selling out is inevitable and in many ways the whole point.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago

Agree with everything you have to say. We have become far too tolerant on bad behaving peers. Now they get called innovative and lots allude to be like them. It’s the new fame. Few people get rich in a conscientious way.

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[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Yeah, because EA gave Bioware a chance to bounce back, in fact multiple chances. You could say EA killed the Bioware of old which the talent leaving the studio, but the new Bioware could've bounced back. They had everything they needed to succeed. A credible studio name that people trusted and a bunch of beloved IPs that people would give a chance. They even had EA giving them more than one shot to not fail (which is more than most EA studios get) and also plenty of time to get it right. All Bioware had to do was put out a good game and they simply couldn't.

So let me ask in reverse. Let's say Bioware was indepedent. What would Bioware have to fuck up for you to say its their fault for going under? Because to me they ticked all those boxes already. Had it been any other studio they'd already be dead and forgotten.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Persued 'live-service' games, using game engines that don't fit, constantly shifting direction of games in development, focusing on a generic streamlined cinematic experience then telling a good, character-driven story with impactful and controversial choices, use Denuvo, stop releasing modding tools, ...

If an independent studio does this stuff... Then they should look for better managers.

The first games that felt off to me where DA2 and ME3, but I played through them, they were still enjoyable. DA:I was bland and boring, so I dropped it, after that I didn't see a return to the studio that I remembered.

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I do hope that was a deliberate jab at Bungie. Because that's exactly what Bungie did when they were independent and the reason they got bought out by Sony was because they were spiraling into their demise. Even now I think if Bungie goes under the blame lies with Bungie and not Sony. With that in mind I think it would be illogical to see two different studios go down the same path and then blame one studio but excuse the other studio.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

EA kept pushing them to MMOs despite them being a single player RPG company. I definitely think they dropped the ball too, but had they been put on DA4 right after inquisition and kept it going to completion I don't think they'd've flopped like that

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 62 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That means all BioWare games should become free now, because a closed studio can't get the money? /s

Of course EA will have no problem getting money on their behalf, all while slashing the developers. If you waited for a call to legitimately pirate BioWare games, this is it.

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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 48 points 1 week ago (3 children)

When they got sold to ea, this was the only possible outcome anyway. Not sure if they sold out or ea did some corporate bullshit to force them to it, but they should have stayed away from ea if they wanted to keep making games.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The founders and original lead developers - Ray Muzyka and Greg Zeschuk - created over a dozen games before they sold the company.

Idk what else you'd want. They did their thing and then they cashed out to live their lives doing other things.

Bioware wasn't even supposed to be a video game company. It was originally founded to pioneer medical technology and only pivoted when their side project - Shattered Steel - outperformed expectations.

Sometime people need to stop being mad because one participate Treats Train has finally ended it's run. Be glad for the games you got, not sad because it's over

After all, you've still got Larian and Paradox and Owlcat and a thousand other indie studios making equivalent games.

[–] draeath@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 week ago (10 children)

The problem is that EA will still squat on the IP for the indefinite future, so nobody gets to do anything with it later.

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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

They sold out to a private equity firm, who in turn sold them to EA.

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I gotta be honest, this is not unexpected at all.

BioWare released 4 games since 2017, one of which was just a remaster/collection of the older Mass Effect titles. The other three games were Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, and Dragon Age Veilguard, all of which aren't exactly considered the studio's best work. These games did not sell well, obviously (and in some cases there are EA earning reports that confirm this), leading to studio closure. Honestly I am surprised this didn't happen sooner. The talent that actually made BioWares reputation probably havent been at that studio for a while.

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The talent that actually made BioWares reputation probably havent been at that studio for a while.

Exactly. A few key figures left not long after the EA buyout. The rest trickled out over time. The Wikipedia article for Dragon Age Veilguard has an entire section dedicated to the revolving door of key staff leaving or being laid off over the course of its almost 10 year development.

It's far from everyone, but a few names from the old Bioware are currently working on this game set to release next year, which is billing itself as a sort of spiritual successor to Mass Effect:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_(2027_video_game)

Edit: And there is also a spiritual successor to KotOR in development with involvement of a few other key names from old Bioware.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Fate_of_the_Old_Republic

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[–] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I'm a big fan of Bullfrog (own every game) and saw the writing on the wall when Bioware got bought.

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Electraudi Artsrabia strikes again.

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Probably doesn't help, and fuck their current owners, but EA has been notorious for buying and killing studios for more than 30 years.

The plot of Ultima 7 was full of references to it. The big bad was a reference to EA corrupting people to join his side, he tried to destroy magic in the world, his power was split in three artefacts shaped like EA's logo, and his two main agents in the world had E and A initials.

Funnily enough the game was basically finished when EA bought Origin Systems who made Ultima, so they just published it as-is.

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (11 children)

In these lists of great things to remember Bioware for, people keep not including MDK2. It told an amazing story of a mad scientist, his janitor and robot dog, repelling an alien invasion and saving Earth. Deserves to be mentioned alongside their othet awesome games.

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[–] expletivedeleted@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Such a tragedy. Black Isle and Bioware were such a great combo in the late 90's.

Just following the fate of Bethesda and Id: kiddos, your heros will die. So it goes.

CDPR hopefully will not make these same mistakes... or they already have.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Just to push back on this, this is long overdue.

EA closing down studios they buy is the expected inevitable outcome

Anyone who lets EA acquire them deserves this. It's not even a secret, so fuck everyone at BioWare who sold their company to this. You can be sad, but you don't get to be surprised

Batteries Included – Purchased in 1987 and closed that same year. Origin Systems – Purchased in 1992. Closed in 2004. Bullfrog Productions – Purchased in 1995. Closed in 2001. Maxis – Purchased in 1997. Closed in 2015. (Studio name still used by EA.) Westwood Studios / EA Pacific – Purchased in 1998. Closed in 2003. Kesmai – Purchased in 1999. Closed in 2001. DreamWorks Interactive / Danger Close Games – Purchased in 2000. Closed in 2013. Black Box Games – Purchased in 2002. Closed in 2013. NuFX / EA Chicago – Purchased in 2004. Closed in 2007. Hypnotix – Purchased and shut down in 2005. Team folded into EA Tiburon. Mythic Entertainment – Purchased in 2006. Closed in 2014. Phenomic Game Development – Purchased in 2006. Closed in 2013. Headgate Studios / EA Salt Lake – Purchased in 2006. Closed in 2017. Pandemic Studios – Purchased in 2007. Closed in 2009. J2MSoft – Purchased in 2008 and folded into EA Korea. Playfish – Purchased in 2009. Closed in 2013. Chillingo – Purchased in 2010. Began shutting down in 2017. Fully closed in 2023. Industrial Toys – Purchased in 2018. Closed in 2023. BioWare – Purchased in 2007. Closed in 2026.

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They understand the cost of everything, the value of nothing

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[–] lazylemons@lemmy.today 14 points 1 week ago

They made my 2 favorite game series of all time. While we all known they fell a long time ago, this still makes me sad.

[–] DudeWhoYapsTooMuch@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

The Morons in Japan are trying to blame online piracy. Makes me wanna swallow some nails..

[–] happysplinter@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This makes me sick to my stomach. I know the last dragon age and mass effect weren't good. But I was still hopeful despite knowing better. There at least was a chance the next ME would be good. I didn't get far in veilguard, and I'll probably never finish it, but I still want to fuck around in Thedas. Like others have said this isn't a surprise, but it hurts me to see this happen to what was once my favorite studio.

I should go.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

Note too the shit stains that now own EA.

[–] arc99@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

EA has form for turning buyouts into shit. Look at PopCap who produced joyous casual-but-fair games until EA sunk their claws into them.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

It's always the fucking suits.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And do not pretend that they didn't told you that it's wokeness that killed the modern game industry! ~/s~

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

bioware was dead somewhere in between getting taken over by ea, long before this.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really wish we could get another great Mass Effect game, but I knew not to get my hopes up. I played Andromeda, after all.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

did people not remember westwood, and trashing command and conquer after RA3, that was unforgivable.

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[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

This is really sad.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

It's just a shame they never made a 4th dragon age

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