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Over the same period, such deaths declined in most other developed nations, according to United Nations data.
From the WSJ article: https://www.wsj.com/us-news/the-deadly-1-5-mile-corridor-that-shows-the-fatal-flaw-in-americas-road-design-8f424579
I wonder why
They should not be legally classified as a car. That should require a special license to drive. That thing is like a freaking wheel loader.
Here comes the fun part. They are legally not classified as a car, at least not in the US. That's the whole point and the reason, why they are allowed to be much deadlier for everyone else, unsafer also for those inside and more polluting.
Agree with you. These should be considered as heavy vehicles (sorry if I'm wrong. English is not my native language). The number of these accidents that happen in the US is insane.
not just a heavy vehicle, but a large vehicle too! They should require all those amber lights along the sides like trucks and buses do.
I've seen some videos where these monstrosities drove over sports cars, it's madness.
If you live outside of dense urban areas, there are usually NO sidewalks for pedestrians. Intersections often lack crosswalks, and the timing of traffic lights don't actually give people enough time to even cross the street. On top of that, with the advent of cell phones, people are more distracted while they are driving than ever before.
The US is de-civilizing itself out of frustration
If US Baby Boomers could read.
It really does blow my mind, if you look at graph after graph of the US compared to the world, so much of the world is in line and the US is a constant outlier and yet people venimently state how good things are and “it’s just because the US is so big”, which is a complete fallacy.
Canada too, ripping out bike lanes.
Correlate that with truck size.
Edit: can’t find a “size” chart, google and the rest are force feeding me “market share” as a size, not GVW or height. Height of hood could probably be part of the reason for increase in deaths, both driver visibility issues and more likely to cause head injury. However, a generic weight chart shows trucks growing in size more rapidly and overall weiging more than cars for quite a while.
Correlation != causation, but yeah. Might be a thing.
It's even scarier because I've seen fewer and fewer people outside walking over the years. I'd imagine that it's more dangerous than it seems.
I went to America for the first time a year and a half ago. The biggest culture shock was definitely the horrible infrastructure. Second to that was the amount of dogs that weren't trained at all.
People talk a lot about feeling unsafe in areas like Tenderloin in SF, but being near any of the dumb, giant car traffic made me feel way more unsafe.
I've spent time in over 30 countries, including developing and emerging countries, and the US is by far the one I felt the least safe in.
Not only have the vehicles gotten bigger, but the conservatives have purposely pushed vehicular homicide as something that is acceptable for groups like protesters. Just mention a "liberal" blocking the road to any conservative to have them quickly quip that they would run them over.
Normalizing vehicular homicide is totally a reflection of our safe and sane car culture in the US.
Terrible street design which prioritizes speed of cars over the safety of the community. The rich and selfish get to kill everyone else so they don't have to wait a bit longer crossing town.
Added bonus: the cars also pollute the fuck out of your home in the process.
Terrible infrastructure decisions combined with massive tank sized vehicles going 40 mph down side streets while many are stressed out working 2 jobs looking down at their smart phone to see if they're going to be late. Surprised?
And company policies that consider 1 minute late to be penalty-worthy. And long vast stretches of straight road. ("Design roads like barrels and people will drive like bullets.")
Longer and longer commutes...
Unpredictable jams and construction...
It's all fundamentally designed in opposition to human well-being.
I still remember when a coworker a while back came to work the first time an hour late because their alarm didn't go off in the morning and they were freaking out. One of the reasons I left. I seriously hate that culture entirely.
As a Miata driver in the deep south - it has never been more dangerous.
"I don't care! I need bigger pickup truck regardless of the cost to society. Make 'em bigger, boys!! Fuck standards and fuck regulations! Human life is cheap anyways.".
Between the rise of SUVs, and the increase in distracted driving, I'm not surprised in the slightest.
We really need to treat driving offenses with way more scrutiny.
I found out recently that operating a boat while intoxicated is a mandatory jail sentence. Meanwhile there are people out driving drunk right now who are 3+ DUIs.
I think it should be 1 and done. After that, you should have to choose between being legally allowed to purchase alcohol, or being legally allowed to drive, and if you blow over 0.00 on a breathalyzer after that, it's an automatic 10 year sentence.
Well according to the numbers its clear that instead of dying overseas they are coming to the US to get run over /s
It's insane how terrible our oversized suvs and trucks have gotten. There is a 12 foot blind spot in front of many of them now where you can't see someone sitting down or a small child.
Absolutely insanity.
I think its about time we stop talking about the US as a developed nation. It really isn't for a majority of americans, and it does appear to be steadily devolving. It's maybe not yet a fully fledged 'poor country" but it is way more of a shithole than I would suppose 80% of countries in the developing world. And the fact that do many Americans think they're the greatest country since sliced bread came around is something I find bemusing
Feel like this will not be a popular take here, but hear me out: I blame safety regs. Crash test standards ensconce drivers deep within a dense cage of beefy reinforced pillars and crumple zones, while "driver assists" make them complacent and disengaged. Modern people movers have worse visibility than an old farm truck and massive touchscreens you have to use to operate the windshield wipers. Peak car was like a quarter century ago, bring back the 1994 Honda Civic. The hatch specifically, that thing was dope. At least you'd notice if you hit someone in one of those
You do know that all the other countries have the same issues you just mentioned, and there, the numbers are going down rather than up.
Edit: I guess they've been going up in Europe after COVID as well.
I would attribute that delay at least in part to the "cash for clunkers" program, which took older vehicles off the road en masse in 2009 in the US specifically. Made number go up but life a little worse, like most things we do :(
e: in case the correlation isn't clear (or you just don't feel like clicking), the program offered government subsidized and highly inflated trade in values for vehicles over a certain age and under a certain fuel economy. This greatly benefited auto manufacturers and investors at the direct expense of taxpayers and used car buyers by using government funding to essentially purchase and destroy ~half of the used car market at the time, depending who you ask.
How the F did US jumped up in 2020? Did the cars start to run into buildings to make up for the diferance in pedestrian trafic?
In 2020, the pedestrian traffic changed from commuting to lots of people going out on daily walks, often in areas that aren't set up for pedestrians. I'm guessing that's a contributing factor.
But why increasing over the prior period? I have a theory you're not going to like.
Demands for safer (for vehicle occupants), and more aerodynamic profiles, lead to giant angled framing in the cabin that sits exactly in the worst place to create a blind spot for pedestrians.
If it's going to increase you have to blame something that changed.
Hostile, selfish, and distracted drivers
There are still too many people who forgot how to drive during pandemic.
For example, just the other day my dog was almost murdered because some idiot came zooming around the bend and “stopped” well past the crosswalk we were in. At an all-way stop sign. With cars already stopped.