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    Holy shit, it's happening, guys. Paint.net is getting official wine support. You know the windows situation is getting bad when even the developer of an app exclusively aimed at Windows is now shifting support to wine...

    They're contributing to the wine project and everything ๐Ÿฅฒ https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60276

    I came on here a few months ago ranting about direct 2D stub functions. Two days ago the dev stopped calling those exact direct 2D functions https://github.com/paintdotnet/Paint.NET-on-Wine/releases/tag/v5.200.9785.36400

    What a time to be alive. Truly a great time to be a Paint.net enjoyer.

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    [โ€“] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 57 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Immediately made cover art for Lutris because why not

    [โ€“] RunJun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 4 days ago

    I donโ€™t understand this interface. Whereโ€™s the AI button? /s

    [โ€“] Ertain@feddit.online 2 points 4 days ago

    I'm sure Matthieu/Strider would appreciate that.

    [โ€“] BananaTrifleViolin@piefed.world 24 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    It's interesting that it's seemingly easier to make the windows version of Paint.NET work on Wine, than bother compiling it for .NET on Linux? I wonder if the dev regrets starting with .NET in the first place?

    [โ€“] rtxn@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

    compiling it for .NET on Linux

    It always sounds so simple for the layperson. Just looking through the list of DLLs in the portable ZIP, PDN uses Windows Forms (System.Windows.Forms namespace), which, as far as I understand, isn't included in the cross-platform releases of .NET. They'd have to rebuild the entire UI with .NET MAUI or some other cross-platform toolkit. Then there are lots of other bundled libraries that may or may not work in a .NET-on-Linux environment.

    Releasing and then supporting a second platform is never as easy as just compiling the executable. Figuring out the quirks and differences of various systems, especially one as heterogenous as the Linux ecosystem, is a drain on resources that small development studios often can't afford. Raiguard (hallowed be his name), one of the developers of Factorio, and the person who is single-handedly maintaining the Linux-native build, wrote a blog post about its challenges.

    [โ€“] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    And people wonder why so many devs use Electron. It may be slow and a RAM hog but hey it works.

    [โ€“] Ephera@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago

    Well, if you want cross-platform anything, not using a Microsoft framework is the first step to success...

    [โ€“] mittorn@masturbated.one 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    @rtxn @BananaTrifleViolin Nothing prevents you from using Window Forms implementation form mono

    [โ€“] rtxn@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

    Except Mono implements the Windows-only .NET Framework, but PDN targets .NET 9. I have no idea how those two could be used at the same time for different parts of the app, what kinds of issues may arise from it, or if it can be done at all. Again, it sounds simple, but it never is.

    [โ€“] mittorn@masturbated.one 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
    [โ€“] rtxn@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

    Adding dependencies, adding complexity, adding points of failure... not to mention that the first sentence in the readme literally says it's an experimental project. Not something that a production software should ever be built upon.

    [โ€“] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    One nitpick: MAUI isn't cross-platform in the sense that it runs on Linux. Okay, it does on Android, but not desktop Linux.

    They'd have to go with something third-party like Avalonia.

    [โ€“] rtxn@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    I have no experience with MAUI, I only heard that it was cross-platform.

    Then what other toolkit has stable .NET bindings on both Linux and Windows? This might become relevant to me professionally in the near future.

    [โ€“] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

    Microsoft's definition of "cross-platform" generally means "Windows and mobile devices, maybe Macs"; MAUI supports Windows, macOS, iOS, Android, and Tizen, but not desktop Linux.

    Generally speaking, if you want a .Net UI that works on all desktop operating systems you'll want a third-party framework like Avalonia or Uno. Yes, that's extremely annoying but .Net is generally well-designed otherwise and they have to put that signature Microsoft touch somehwere.

    [โ€“] Ertain@feddit.online 1 points 4 days ago

    Yeah, if only they could do a proper port. Looks too difficult at this point.

    [โ€“] alpine_jim@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago

    right, wasn't Mono supposed to handle things like this?

    [โ€“] Thorry@feddit.org 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    It makes no sense, .NET is fully supported on Linux and has been for years. There is an official SDK and it's capable of creating full standalone executables, or smaller ones requiring the runtime libraries to be installed on the target system. As far as I know good packages exist for just about any distro. .NET is fully open source and not just worked on by Microsoft, but a large community.

    Creating a Linux executable from any .NET code is as simple as running a single command, it supports cross platform compilation as well. With support for a range of architectures and OSes.

    The only caveat is all the code needs to be properly managed code, any unmanaged code is most likely not cross platform compatible and is thus not recommended. It can even break as drivers or the OS is updated for example, so it's a bad idea to have unmanaged code and usually not needed.

    [โ€“] groet@feddit.org 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Only ".NET core" is cross Plattform. ".NET framework" is Windows only. If they startend developing in framework they cant simply compile to linux.

    [โ€“] Thorry@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago

    .NET framework has been discontinued for years now with .NET platform being the official successor. It's no longer called .NET core. If one started with framework, moving over to platform is very easy as it's the exact same language. If thet were on framework still, it would mean they haven't updated in years, which would be weird and not recommended.

    [โ€“] Zarobi@aussie.zone 4 points 3 days ago

    Not fully supported. Some libraries are not supported especially drawing ones. .Net can be cross platform but you have to be careful what you use

    [โ€“] JelleWho@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Just commenting here so I can pick this up later. I'm still deeply interested in this. The Pinta interface has not be as intuitive than what paint.net has been

    [โ€“] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    Feel free to ask me any questions if you need help setting it up. There's also another repo I haven't looked into yet here: https://github.com/toehead2001/Paint.NETOnWine

    I literally just took the latest portable build, threw it into lutris, and set the wine version to 11.20. You only need the install.sh if you don't already have the required wine components, which my system already did.

    [โ€“] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 days ago

    There's literally a button to save a post or comment.

    [โ€“] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

    How is this a meme?

    [โ€“] auzy1@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

    Loved paint.net. miss paint.net. this is awesome news

    [โ€“] TheGingerNut@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 days ago

    Me who's been pinned on 2.1.2 since the abysmal GTK3 upgrade: You know what, I might just check that out!

    [โ€“] klangcola@reddthat.com 8 points 4 days ago

    Excellent news ๐Ÿ˜ƒ