Sanders notably attributed the war in Gaza to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and “the right-wing Netanyahu government” — not to Israel in general.
This extremely obvious distinction seems to get completely lost in every discussion on the topic. I like Israel and they have the right to exist. I don't like far right conservative governments run by corrupt war criminals (but enough about Bush...).
Absolutely. Just like caring about the fate of innocent Palestinians doesn't mean rooting for the Hamas terrorists. Another distinction a lot of bad faith actors conveniently ignore in order to shift the narrative.
Absolutely.
There are essentially 4 groups that need to be discussed here. The governments of Palestine and Israel, and the civilians of Palestine and Israel.
The governments are both murderous monsters who feed off of each other to fuel their hatred and justify genocide.
The civilians are the Innocents being killed and displaced.
In part because there are people actively and deliberately muddying together the Netanyahu government and Israel (as well as Israel and Jews) so that any criticism of the actions of Israel or Netanyahu can be labeled "antisemitism".
I mean Netanyahu has been winning elections since 1996 (granted there was a gap in the middle) so the election is getting dubious.
Has this guy ever been wrong about anything?
Best President we never had.
Pity right? Right up there with what could've been had RBG stepped down a bit earlier.
I'll never forgive her for clinging on to power. She destroyed her legacy and ruined lives for the greed of it
RBG wanted Hillary to pick her replacement. The hubris of that decision. SMH
I mean yeah he actually wasn’t quick to denounce Israel’s genocide in Gaza. I am super happy he has come around but I think I’m the beginning he was reluctant to (not because he agreed with it, because he probably didn’t want to mess with Israeli money coming after him politically).
I doubt he gives a good fuck about AIPAC setting their sights on him, they've been sniping for years.
I can't speak for him but my bet is that he's experienced enough to wait for the dust to settle a little before forming an opinion.
Fair, whatever the reason is I am glad he is on the right side now
Dude was raised in a Jewish family and volunteered with his wife in Israel in college.
Mad props for ever speaking out about Israel, IMO.
I don't think he's alone. The Hamas attack was a shock to many people, and Israel of course would respond but... even six weeks ago it was starting to become obvious that this was a gross overreaction.
He's against nuclear power, and that's the only thing I've ever disagreed with him on.
Awaiting the Christian Right to call him antisemitic.
Conservative Democrats will do it first.
When haven't they done that?
Not the first time this happened.
The Christian right aren't Sanders actual enemies; that would be the Democratic party.
Military industrial complex goes BRRRRRRR while the oligarchy distracts you with yet another "most important election of your life" — forcing you to choose between fascist dystopia or neoliberal dystopia instead of ... actually improving the planet and society for future generations.
ok but, trump actually directly said he plans on being a dictator... it's really the most important election in much of american history...
Just because Biden is the lesser evil (and he most certainly is. By far) doesn't mean that he should be allowed to be an evil.
He's supposed to represent the interests of every American who isn't a fascist, not a foreign government that IS fascist.
Agreed. What does that change? I’m still voting for Biden.
There aren’t any perfect choices in life, all choices of consequence have downsides. Sometimes it’s choosing harm reduction. The man has a solid record of progress with climate legislation, pardoning marijuana possession charges, limiting insulin prices and more.
Could he do better? Hell yeah. But I’m an adult in a democracy and I understand that a vote is a tool, not a moral stance. I can apply that tool in the most effective way by voting for a lesser evil.
I also have other tools at my disposal, like money. So I give my money to groups like FairVote that supports Ranked Choice Voting so that, long after the 2024 election, we can vote for candidates instead of against them.
But I’m not boycotting the system we have unless someone can convince me that Trump will see a lack of voter turnout as a lack of mandate to implement his anti-Democratic, thuggish, racist, sexist plans.
Yeah it's hard to disagree with this. While I don't think that the US or Canada can do much to influence the situation politically, neither should they be providing support militarily.
Bro the US used their veto in the UN to prevent the demand for a ceasefire passing. Literally only USA and Israel voted against. The US is the most powerful country in the world for now, you'd be hard pressed to find an arena of politics they DONT have immense power over. Certainly they have power over the genocides their allies do.
Hmm, I feel like the US are why Israel can do as it pleases. If it weren't for the US backup the chances of a new war on Israel by several of it's neighbors backed by Iran would be very plausible. I don't wish for this to happen, it would be horrible, and I understand that the US should perhaps back Israel to a certain degree. But in return they can ask a lot from Israel, and if Israel doesn't even comply with not committing terrible war crimes, then the US could threaten them with not having their backs anymore.
What I'm trying to say is: I think you underestimate the role the US can play.
providing military support is influencing the situation politically
Stop funding terrorists, stop funding evil regimes, it's not so hard
Fucking Anti-Semite!
Edit: /s
Clear sarcasm getting blasted. C'mon lemmy.
I've never seen a post where the /s seemed less necessary. You're better than this Lemmy.
Wanna know the dirty little secret about lemmy that we've all slowly had to realize about reddit too? We're not better than this.
There really is no such thing as clear sarcasm in this political climate.
And to think the DNC wanted to attack him for being Jewish.
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