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[–] Vegan_Joe@anarchist.nexus 125 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

If Gen Z has 50 million people, then this map shows that they are not moving.

23K is only 0.046% of 50 million.

All together, only half of a single percent have moved, according to this graph.

Seems like everybody's staying put, and this map means nothing.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, these are net changes. If some amount of people moves from New York to California and the same amount moves the other direction, it doesn't show up.

Which means the map means even more nothing.

[–] Vegan_Joe@anarchist.nexus 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

True. Which begs the question, what is this map for?

I always assume some political angle on posts like these.

I know I am assuming malice when incompetence may be the better answer, but my uninformed speculation leads me to think the mismanaged numbers are trying to send a message.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, the map says it's from realtor.com so the purpose might just be to try to understand and anticipate market trends. It might have relevance to an investor even if it doesn't tell us much about society or Gen Z. I could see someone spreading it to make it look like people find conservative areas more appealing, but I wouldn't accuse OP of that without more basis.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I would assume that there are two primary factors at work: cost of living, and economic opportunity. California may be an economic powerhouse, but if you can buy a suburban house in SC for a fraction of its CA equivalent, then that would be a factor. If you're living in Maine, even if houses are cheap, you might want to go somewhere where more things are happening. It's not necessarily a matter of people wanting to live in more conservative areas; if conservative policies demolished the local economy and ruined home values, that would mean more cheap real estate that people can afford, regardless of how they feel about the politics of the area.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Important rule when looking at such maps, always ask yourself what the map is not showing

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 week ago

All the older gens been moving to Missouri. It's fucked the people from the state. It was a lower wage state with more affordable housing because of it. People from places like California sell off their crazy expensive house, but a home in Missouri, and have a big retirement and a spare six figures. Now people from Missouri can't afford homes or afford to retire. So many "landlords" are also originally from out of state. They moved here and bought a few extra townhouses so they don't have to work. I was lucky enough to get a house before things got crazy expensive. What I paid $130k for 15 years ago is now $300k at a much higher interest rate. No one from around here can afford that.

[–] soyslurper2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you add all the positive changes, you get 179k. This is 23.9% of GenZ according to the map, so the map claims there are 749k GenZ in total (of which 23.9% moved).

I'm not sure how they are calculating under 1 million GenZ in 2024. Anyway, the map is still bad for not doing population density per state.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Remember that the numbers on the states are net numbers. If Texas has 500,000 Gen Z emigrants and 511,000 Gen Z immigrants, that only shows up as 11,000 here while still meaning a vastly higher proportion of Gen Z migrating across state lines. If every state paired up with one other one and exchanged 100,000 Gen Z people, you'd have 5,000,000 Gen Z migrants but every state on the map would show zero

[–] soyslurper2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Ah right, my bad

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

It's net movement, not gross. There's raw data that shows all 53 x 53 of how those born in the 50 states, District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and overseas live in the 50 states + DC + PR + non-US. I can't do the analysis easily from my phone, but you can break it out to what percentage of Americans live in a different state of birth. There's probably raw data that can show the Gen Z specific stats, too.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I’d like to see per capita numbers.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You get easily over 100k people moving a year and you think this is significantly insignificant?

[–] Vegan_Joe@anarchist.nexus 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is not uncommon for Americans to move multiple times in their lifetime.

There are around 350 million Americans, with 50 to 70 million Gen Z alone.

In that context, yes, 100K is insignificant, being 0.0286% of the total population.

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[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 53 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Now as a % to state population for it to be actually relevant

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Another population heatmap.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

No, it isn't. Florida and Pennsylvania are some of the most populous states but have pretty small numbers on the map. Washington has a bigger number than Texas despite having a quarter of the population

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[–] sudo@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago

South Carolina is going to stick out even more with that metric.

[–] orbital@infosec.pub 18 points 1 week ago
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Almost all of that make sense except South Carolina. There's nothing in South Carolina.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

that's not true. there's that law that makes playing cards in a pub illegal

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[–] omghi@thelemmy.club 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

WHY ARE YOU GOING TO IDAHO 😭

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Chip industry, both potato and RAM

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[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Lots of GenZ men proudly identify as fascist, so Idaho is the perfect fit.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I do love me some potatos

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

California is so expensive... I get it. You get what you pay for sometimes, though.

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Poor gen Z can't pay for jack shit

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago

The factor is money

[–] jumperalex@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

This is pointless with a cross generational comparison. And even that would be sus due to other confounding factors, like, the economy.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

use this map the next time someone tries to tell you that you're wrong when you say gen-z is filled with MAGA brain rot.

[–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Or there are well educated Gen Z people from blue states who are moving to where to CoL is lower because the economy and job market have been royally fucked by the generations before them?

Or maybe, and far more likely, both are true among other reasons.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If 15,000 people from each state moved to Wyoming, we could take over the entire state in a couple years.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

and what would happen to the states they came from?

oh yeah...they'd probably become red state shitholes.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Economic migration. Young people fleeing high-CoL areas and moving to lower-CoL areas with lots of jobs.

California is just way too expensive!

I feel like expense is only one part of it, because WA is also very expensive to live in and it gained.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 week ago

what idiot is moving to hawaii?

gotta be rich fucks, makes me mad

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

North Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Oklahoma. I have questions.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fargo is a surprisingly fun town to be in your 20's. Lots of music and a cool art scene.

I had a blast there in my early 20s. Lots of jobs and reasonable rents. Walkable neighborhoods.

There was a grateful dead cover band that played every Thursday night in this awesome space that used to be a theater. Danced my face off on the regular.

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[–] 13igtyme@startrek.website 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

South Carolina is cheap as fuck and many likely are working from home. I have coworkers there. Sure they have no rights as humans, but maybe enough will start to sway elections.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

HCOL will cause a migration, plus the lack of jobs for entry levels and recent graduates in MCOL/hcol areas, despite it being hubs, most people that moved in the hcol areas already have a long established career, in tech , biotech(scientist, health)

[–] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As you can see, the baby Gen Z will leave it's California nest, and as an adult spread to other nearby states.

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, cost of everything is so expensive in NJ, if you can leave, oughta.

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