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[–] Lanske@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 hours ago

Are you saying we don't protest? Because I've been to 4 protests this year and was suppressed by police at 2 of them. What am I taking note of? The fact that so many people on here get a hate boner for Americans just as much as they do for Trump?

God I'm so fucking sick of this attitude. Americans are trying to fix this. How about you go get maced and shot at by the police and then tell me how much you want to do it again? I have a sneaking suspicion that the vast majority of people with your attitude would turn tail or stay home in our exact situation.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Time to play some Rush

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 17 points 9 hours ago

Well, yes, but first it went very badly for the students.

[–] tino@lemmy.world 56 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Paris has been redesigned in the XIXth century to contain revolts: the wide avenues are hard to block with barricades , and in straight line, so it's always visible from the main police barracks that are located on the big squares at each end. Also, since 1930, almost all strikes have to use the same route between 3 places: Republique, Bastille and Nation.

So basically, we've been storming the Bastille weekly for 2 centuries.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 32 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

But MAGA keeps telling me France has burned entirely to the ground because of Muslims! They wouldn't be saying that just to promote Islamophobia and racism, would they? /s

[–] antianarchist@sopuli.xyz 37 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

The US should take notes. No one is as efficient at protesting as France.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

They failed long time ago F-

[–] blackshirt@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago

If they don't fear you, they wont treat you fairly.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
[–] RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 hours ago

US protesters: hold up a sign saying "We're angry" French protesters: are angry

We are not the same.

[–] antianarchist@sopuli.xyz 23 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Do you have any idea how protests in France work? Size is not what counts. They will burn down the whole city if it has to be. Garbage cans and cars regularly get ignited and flipped over. Pure chaos in the whole city for DAYS, if not weeks, not just a couple hours. And they are all ready to answer police with violence, if they are violent towards the people.

No Kings etc is just a nice get together with a bit of cosplay.

(of course I am exaggerating a little bit, but don’t ever compare US protests to French protests)

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

For Americans, doing the protest is an end in itself. They’re a way for comfortable white liberals to telegraph that they’re “on the right side” and “the good ones” so that they can return to doing nothing after a few hours of waving signs around and posting photos.

There is never any plan to escalate, never any thought to what happens if their demands aren’t met. The US does parades. Bring the kids, it’ll be fun- you can LARP participation in democracy.

[–] tene@leminal.space 19 points 9 hours ago

don't ever compare US protests to french protests

Why not? Having been at both, I will compare them (out of spite)

I agree that french protests are generally more intense, we have witnessed similarities in the recent protests (in Minneapolis for example).

Spontaneous upheaval, organized response to police brutality, occupation of large avenues and city cultural trademarks, property damage...

I do feel that there is a lack of class cohesion and solidarity in the US protests, response to police crowd control isn't as good, groups of ultras are few and unorganized, protests don't last as long and aren't discussed in public opinion as often, there isn't as many meaningful chants (or enthusiasm when chanting them) and last but not least, it's way harder for the protest to have a meaningful impact on a city's normal operations because they're so damn big

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

oh yea we’re not france also US is far more of a police state by comparison and far, far larger

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

So... France protests the same way Eagles fans lose. Noted.

/s

[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 97 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

We DONT have Enough MONEY for Teachers! We spent ALL that Money on SHOOTING CHILDREN IN THE FACE instead!

-LITERALLY The French Government!

[–] kossa@feddit.org 25 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Yep. I like how the general consensus in society is "don't beat your children, that'll teach them wrongly". Meanwhile the government out and about beating up all the children, who just ask for a better future 👍. That'll teach them the right lessons, I guess.

[–] inari@piefed.zip 20 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't go super well for the revolutionaries either

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 35 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Debatable. The people of France gained more liberties than anyone else in contental Europe at the time. Feudal rights abolished, internal trade barriers stripped away, eventually the best law code the world had seen to that point, etc... It was overwhelmingly positive for the people of France long-term.

[–] inari@piefed.zip 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Long-term, sure, but they quickly lost most of their gains in the short and medium term when Napoleon restored the monarchy.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 18 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Not at all. Napoleon's Empire was extremely enlightened compared to the ancient regime they had been laboring under. He's the one that implemented said law code for instance. It wasn't a republic but in a lot of way Napoleon's reign is what cemented the gains of the Revolution. The institution that made them permanent and helped to forge the concept of the nation of France.

Also don't forget that Napoleon overthrew the dictatorship of the Directory that itself had overthrown the Revolution.

[–] Not_Dav3@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

The Directory was dysfunctional but not a dictatorship. I mean, what kind of dictatorship cuts the executive power five ways?

Napoleon's reign is a mixed bag. He did cement some of the gains of the Revolution but it still wasn't a good time to be a woman or a former slave.

[–] menas@lemmy.wtf -4 points 11 hours ago

No, Napoleon was a tyran and retcon a lot of liberty ; slavery, antisemitic laws, for example. The only legacy of Napoleon that matter is his own propaganda that still exist in France. I would bet that you've followed a French education

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago

The Irish revolutionary, Gilles O'Teen will be there again this time around as well. And all other future times in this seemingly endless cycle! /s

[–] peacepath@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

I think the previous time was the yellow vest movment (gilets jaunes) ; and the gouvernment got saved by Covid...

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 47 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Bastille Day 2: Electric Boogaloo

[–] BooBees@fedinsfw.app 39 points 16 hours ago

Let them vape cake

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 10 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

This is false, because the Bastille literally doesn't exist anymore

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastille

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 25 points 14 hours ago

The place where they are is still called "Bastille" now, so it does, actually.

[–] helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz 28 points 15 hours ago

It didn't exist during the July revolution either, but the plaza in front of it's forget location became a powerful symbol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_Revolution

[–] a14o@feddit.org 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Somebody should have taught them some history then.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 26 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

They're being rather pedantic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Place_de_la_Bastille

Place de la Bastille being overtaken by protests hasn't boded well for multiple French governments. The actual prison may have long since been demolished, but the plaza that existed in front of the prison is still rather symbolic to the People of France

[–] a14o@feddit.org 3 points 4 hours ago

Oh, I'm well aware. I was trying to make a joke about the state of education because that's what's being protested.