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How easy would it be to shutdown "alligator alcatraz"?

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s more complicated than that; they’ve shifted from domestic concentration camps to foreign concentration camps — so the first thing you’d have to deal with is international diplomacy.

[–] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You could divert a tiny fraction of military spending into ~~bribes~~ investments for these foreign countries.

Also an important step after getting everyone home would be ruthlessly punishing anyone even slightly responsible. Otherwise you're going to get the same shit all over again.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago

The worst part is that there are no records of some of this. We don't know where some of these people have been taken.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 12 points 1 week ago

Use executive orders to undo everything. And with your last executive order, you ban all further executive orders.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

just shut it down, ICE work for you and the Supreme Court has given you complete immunity.

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

Oh, you know that immunity will somehow get reinterpreted during the next non-Republican's term (if any) to not really apply going forward, but Trump will still be included.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Youd just sign an executive order and it'd be done. Might need to replace anybody who doesn't want to follow the order.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As annoying as it is, you're not wrong. Donald has demonstrated that the president can effectively rule by fiat, provided they're willing to fight for whatever it is they ordered, up to and including tanking the campaigns of people in their own party. (Which Democrats have never shown a willingness to do, unless you're a socialist.)

In order to create LASTING change, ideally, one needs Congress. That said, so much power is now invested in the presidency that you don't really need Congress for much.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 5 points 6 days ago

Part of the problem is that you have a complicit Congress and Supreme Court. However, since the majority of Congress is the President's Party, Trump can operate in a vacuum and Congress won't push back. It also turns out that the people concerned about Supreme Court nominees were right.

[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 week ago

If you're a Democrat you MUST go Throw Congress and Courts and Public Perception! If you're a REPUBLICAN you can Literally do WHATEVER you Want!

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You could pardon them.

But they already shut down alligator Alcatraz.

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Alligator Auschwitz

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago

The president of the US is the head of the federal executive branch. Anything done by the executive branch, you could undo, including release people detained by the executive branch. I don't know enough details about which illegally detained people you're referring to to answer the question more completely.

[–] aarRJaay@kbin.earth 2 points 1 week ago

I didn't know AoC was on Lemmy! Hi! Wishing you all the best.

[–] hyperion626@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Well personally I'd create some kind of review board to identify who probably shouldn't be let go. I would be surprised if the net hasn't caught people who best not be walking our streets. Otherwise IMO, any deaths caused by the person after you let them go is on you for facilitating their release into the public.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they are largely bad people, but blanket releases are stupid and dangerous. Expedience is key though so forming that board and getting them whatever they need would be high priority since every day they are detained is another day their family is without them.

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Just a pedantic statement: you are posting on a world wide platform. As least, refer to which country you are talking about when asking the question. I know it’s clear from context, but it’s off-putting for all the others that are not in the US.

Edit: on one hand, I want to apologize, I definitely came in too strong and was a bit of a duche. Sorry. On the other, I am amused at the visceral reaction I got.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

know it’s clear from context,

Then the obvious detail doesn't need to be explicitly written.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

No it's not. What's off-putting is treating people like they're morons. Treating people like the lowest common denominator. That's what you're doing.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

How many countries are there whose current (or recent) head of state or government is named "Trump"?

[–] HatchetHaro@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago

speak for yourself. US politics is incredibly fun to get into as an outsider.