That's the problem, people think of Trump as the cause
He's the result.
When your government is for sale, the elected are greedy, ruthless, amoral villains.
Trump is stupid, we'll miss him when someone brilliantly evil "wins".
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Not current, but a possible counter point would have been Nelson Mandela.
I had a longer title in mind that said there was a small chance of it being a great thing, but a much higher chance of it being a really, really bad thing
I think you could save this one still. People knew his name before he was elected leader because he was imprisoned by his racist government. That's not really a good thing.
Aung San Suu Kyi, for a short time while in power before she tolerated genocide on her watch, would have sort of fit in the Mandela category as well.
Aung San Suu Kyi
Man, she was such a disillusionment.
Ok, Ho Chi Minh, and the one thing that the guy who oversaw crimes against humanity and slavery against Uncle Ho's people was known for was good. The other things Charles De Gaul did, not so much.
Not a country leader, but Zohran Madani is quite well known
Ghandi, Abraham Lincoln, and Queen Elizabeth were known for their positive contributions
Abraham Lincoln for their positive contribution
Whole world knows his name
No? He was a leader during USA civil war, nothing noteworthy on the world scale. He was for freeing some slaves, but famously not his.
Roosevelt, yes, that guy is more known for their contribution.
If you say "I can't wait for him to die" and the whole world thinks of the same person, it's probably pretty damn bad
He's so stupid that you even know who I mean when I say "he's so stupid".
I have started looking for restaurants for when Trump dies, at the moment I have been looking at the best Greek restaurants, but I'll make a spreadsheet with options and pick on the day.
pick on the day.
Yeah, making a reservation several days beforehand would probably raise a couple red flags 😁
Not like you have to specify "I'm making this reservation to celebrate Trump's death" though
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Hopefully, it happens on a Tuesday. If so, I'm doing Taco Tuesday 😂. Specifically, the Doritos Locos Tacos from Taco Bell because they're orange.
Hey, any day can be a Taco Tuesday if you want it to be. Especially if the taco in question is himself the kind that changes things names on a whim. You could have 7 or more Tuesdays per week for all I care.
Fucking brilliant
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Case and point: José Alberto "Pepe" Mujica Cordano is afaik the most famous "objectively good guy" president and you've probably never heard of him.
Part of a Marxist-Leninist urban guerrilla group fighting a democratically elected center-right government. Mujica was variously the sole survivor of a mission to take a telephone exchange, shot six times fighting multiple policemen (he injured two), part of four prison escapes, and lost his mind after years of solitary confinement.
The only leader I know that openly confronted consumerism and considered it a priority, as well as the concept of infinite economic growth. He even criticized latin american left parties for having turned poor people into consumers, and not into citizens (as in people with rights)
My favorite thing was how he never had security cuz was an authentic national treasure.
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Hmmmm...
I give you Mark Carney.
Who?
Except for Obama. A lot of people outside the US knew Obama, and loved/love him.
Trump everyone knows, and hates.
So both sides of the coin here.
Yeah, lots of people knew his name and hated him. And I'm not talking US racists. I'm talking the friends and family of innocent people he killed with drone strikes.
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Jacinda Ardern and Barack Obama both had a pretty good rep and worldwide appeal. Maybe even Xi Jinping
Idk if your statement is correct
Ardern unfortunately ended her term prematurely after having been through three major disasters (Christchurch terrorist shooting, Whakaari eruption which killed 22 people, and of course COVID) and has been chased out of the country by a bunch of rancid conspiracy nutters (and the far right politicians that support them). The Prime Minister of a tiny country like NZ is only going to get well known for negative reasons for the country, even if she handled those issues mostly well.
I've never heard Jacinda Ardern mentioned until now. And Barack Obama was the first black POTUS (and also ridiculed by some because of that). Xi Jinping is probably the best example.
Xi? The guy orchestrating a genocide?
Of being known worldwide
Ah, I should have directed this at the top comment which implies he has a good reputation worldwide.
The guy who expanded the drone war to like 8 countries, bailed out the banks after they stole millions of homes, and built the cages for immigrants?
He looks good next to the guy who invaded Iraq and the guy who is currently bombing Iran.
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They may not have known his name, but there was a time when (hopefully soon to be former) New Zealand prime minister Chris Luxon became the face of shitty landlords the world over.
On the other hand, “Jacinda” was suddenly commonly heard admiringly at many kitchen tables around the world for a brief time.
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That's not true. You know of Mussolini, and that's not necessarily a bad thing oh I see what you mean yes this is bad
There's plenty of people who don't know about pol pot.
Yep. It's like if it doesn't affect western countries, the genocides aren't really brought up.
A lot of the world heard about Jacinda back during lockdowns, and that was for a good reason
I remember Hungary apparently had a really bad leader for a while but I have no idea what his name was.
You thinking of Victor orbarn (not sure if that's the right spelling)
Orban
He was replaced with Peter Hungarian. No, I'm not kidding, that's what the new guy's last name (Magyar) means in Hungarian.
Can't wait for Trump's reign to be over and John American to take over.
Our leader in the U.S. is a perfect reflection of our conservatives. If you know his qualities, you know the qualities of our conservatives. If you know conservatives, it's pretty obvious there is no peaceful way out of our situation.
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