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[–] LordTE7R1S@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To all of you yanks, you should start rethinking your anthem, land of the free my ass

[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Never has been so long as conscription exists

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

It would be so easy for me to laugh this off and say, "duh just don't go to the third world country that is the USA," but anything they do will spread to other parts of the world.

Maybe wipe an old phone and just have signal to communicate with family until I cross the border? I wouldn't even mind paying a few bucks to make a new signal account without a phone number.

[–] amgine@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As a us citiczen I’m more and more looking at my phone as a hostile device. I have Graphene on one phone and an iPhone, but with how things are going these days who knows how secure these devices really are. Apple iOS is a black box. Android is not much better, and they’re now faster than laptops and most desktops. They can be running and recording and reporting anything and still sip battery life. I’ve since deleted social media apps outside of lemmy and HN. I use my little e-reader more than my phone. All my personal stuff is in encrypted cloud that is not iCloud, I don’t use biometrics to unlock it. But I still don’t trust it. I’m beginning to think carrying it in a foil bag until I need it is a good idea.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

I agree, it's not a tool, it's a compromised and dangerous device and I have to carry it with me carefully. I have always turned off my location from time to time and carefully managed permissions, but nowadays here's what I do:

  • Graphene
  • no biometric login
  • no stale data on the device. If I won't need it while I am mobile, does it need to be on my phone?
  • location off, BT off, and airplane mode when going into grocery stores or any surveillance a happy retailer.
  • factory wipe or alternate phone before traveling internationally, especially to countries with questionable rule of law, including my own
  • minimal non-FOSS apps (getting less every time I redo the phone)
  • any app that has a usable web portal or can be accessed on desktop only (Facebook, reddit) does not get installed.
  • no pairing with cars or other BT devices that are known to be sketchy.

If I controlled the software on a deeper level, I would set it up to have a toggle where it will only connect to the cell network every 30-60 minutes. There is little in my life that is more important than a half hour response time, so why am I continuously broadcasting my triangulated location? I would have that toggle turned on 90% of the time.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is this part of their tourism strategy?

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I believe they are hunting tourist and working on the commercialization thereof.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Are those directing ICE also involved in human trafficking?

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Are they involved in anything else?

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I'd imagine that would be a pretty safe bet, but I'm not sure what you're referring to.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 70 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Remember to turn off all biometrics for unlocking your phone, if not now, then at least when traveling internationally. They can scan your face or your fingerprint without a warrant. But they can't compel you to provide potentially incriminating information including passwords, codes and patterns. Self-destruct codes will likely get you arrested for obstruction of justice and destruction of evidence though, so use those at your own risk. I wouldn't recommend it.

Best to never keep anything you wouldn't want a cop or fed seeing anywhere on your device. If you have any materials that you wish to keep private, store them elsewhere as much as possible. Either never store them on your device or regularly back them up somewhere secure and wipe your device clean. Make sure all remote access to those materials are behind secure encrypted password protected connections.

Remember, know the law so that you may follow it to its letter and no further. If you must comply, comply. If you can, don't comply. Know your rights and practice them. Never volunteer information to law enforcement even if you're innocent. You don't know what they know, what they are wanting to hear, what can be misunderstood, confused or contorted to put you into trouble. Every day is shut the fuck up Friday. Nobody will protect you but you.

[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

I don't know how a self-destruct code will work, but if you have password A get into profile A, while password B gets you into a plausibly looking and normal profile B while profile A and password A get deleted, then you can claim your phone was always and ever the way profile B shows it. It doesn't look or feel "destroyed." It's just a normal profile with mundane messages, browsing history, contact list that makes sense, etc.

Good luck proving that anything fishy happened when the whole operation looks and feels like unlocking a normal phone.

You can even setup biometric login to be password B. So if someone gets into your phone with a fingerprint, which feels very normal, they see a normal boring and completely plausible profile.

There is absolutely a way to make phones secure if there is enough will.

That said, it's a political problem that's begging for a political rather than a tech solution.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Refusing to unlock your properly secured device for them will result in its confiscation and perhaps your detention.

Password managers and browser history are sticking points. You could not use your device for anything, but one of your services might rat you out.

You kinda need a travel phone.

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[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How long until they're caught planting fake data on phones to arrest people they don't like though?

[–] Stegget@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That kind of thing has been happening since the 90s.

[–] oyzmo@piefed.social 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Or just don't travel to North Korea, because we are talking about the fascist dictatorship of North Korea, right? No western democracy would do this.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago

traveling to actual north korea would likely be safer at this point

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

My pin is eleven digits, a number I'll never forget, and I enter it every time. No face ID for me.

Also, don't call the cops unless getting arrested is better than whatever is happening. Because, they'll use any excuse to arrest you no matter how innocent you think you are.

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[–] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 119 points 2 days ago (16 children)

The Knight First Amendment Institute argued as amicus that searching expressive and associational content on phones demands a First Amendment warrant. The Second Circuit rejected that argument, holding that neither the Fourth nor the First Amendment carves out a special exemption for phones at the border.

Wow. Yeah... We all need shitty travel phones with very little on them now. That's fucking gross.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 69 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The Second Circuit rejected that argument, holding that neither the Fourth nor the First Amendment carves out a special exemption for phones at the border.

The second circuit used the right argument but somehow came to the wrong conclusion. The 4th carves out no special exemption, meaning you need a warrant.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Conservatives are pathological liars by nature. They re-define words to suit their immediate needs. Never trust a conservative. Never.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Second Circuit rejected that argument, holding that neither the Fourth nor the First Amendment carves out a special exemption for phones at the border.

Could it be because the technology was still 250 fucking years away?

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

When traveling, carry a flip phone and a digital camera.

Got it.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This will really fix that lost tourism problem.

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[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 77 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Looks like it's time to carry a dummy phone with you if you decide to visit the US. Not really sure why any non-citizens would want to do that at this point though.

[–] YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz 33 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Interestingly, iOS 27 has a new “2 phones can share 1 number and you can swap between them” which didn’t seem to make a lot of sense.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

This is what happens when you allow conservatives (fascists) to have control.

This is why it is your responsibility (duty) to do whatever is most likely to prevent that from happening.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The pic shows that tiny little guy with the big nazi coat. I thought the tiny little guy with the big nazi coat got fired.

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[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] ulkesh@piefed.social 38 points 2 days ago

Fuck ICE and fuck CBP.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ok, so not entering the country i will.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago

The pile of reasons to not visit the USA grows daily.

[–] Lectral@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Not if I never travel to that shithole country again.

[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This is nothing new. I don't agree with it but people are acting like this was rolled out yesterday. Unless we can reverse the supreme court ruling on it, nothing will prevent them from searching phones at airports or within 100 of borders.

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