0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself sad. He is starting to suspect Kras Mazov fucked him over personally with his socio-economic theory. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.
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How not to lose? It is impossible not to. The world is balanced on the edge of a knife. It’s a game of frayed nerves. You’re pushed on by numbers and punitive measures: pain, rejection, and unpaid bills. You can either play or you can crawl under a boat and waste away — turn into salt or a flock of seagulls. Your enemies would love that. Or you can fight. The only way to load the dice is to keep on fighting. (The Precarious World thought, Disco Elysium)
sometimes for just a moment i resent non-communists because they get to be stupid and unaware of the greater evils of the world. i know i know it’s not a personal issue and we SHOULD feel uncomfortable because the system NEEDS to be changed but it still sucks. just a few minutes ago i was taking a shit and looking up why people look down on blue collars workers. i got into a bit of a rabbithole about how corporate workers also have it reallllyyy bad but they shame blue collar workers to feel better and i got overwhelmed because 1. we need to have empathy for corporate workers too 2. we need to unite workers of all kinds against the actual threat and started to think about the magnitude of said task. everyday its like this and it feels so lazy to even say i would like a mental break because the system doesnt take a break ever.
corporate workers are part of a labor aristocracy and have petite bourgeois consciousness, they aren't tricked into looking down on blue collar workers, it's because they belong to a privileged group within the proletariat meant to be big consumers. also many white collar workers, especially in the imperial core, are straight up not productive and manage the bureaucracy of institutions which would not exist under socialism like finance for example.
sometimes for just a moment i resent non-communists because they get to be stupid and unaware of the greater evils of the world
You aren't alone. I have expressed similar to this to every single commy friend I have and every one of them has sympathized with this or a similar feeling. "Sometimes I just wish I could be as ignorant as them and just only care about eating garbage food and watching whatever trash TV after work and that's as my life. Then I go to work and complain about how fucking hot it is with literal not a single hint of knowledge about climate change." Pretty close to a rant one of my friends sent me one day, unprompted, and I knew he was talking about his roommate.
What's worse is trying to teach people and the just, complete and utter not giving a shit about anything at all that they do. It's not just that no one's taught them, it's when so many just, don't give a fuck.
no i understand that, i often resent them too and the majority of fellow westoids like myself, it's completely normal in my opinion
I managed to get one of my siblings on the path “to get it” aka introducing barebones Marxist fundamentals, and they had like a serious period of spiraling and sudden obsession with politics (they used to be a “apolitical”/“we can’t change anything” type) because the world they thought they lived in was not what they were indoctrinated in to be.
There is a hesitation and wanting to live in the comfort of imagined meritocracy that many “typical” people possess.
they had like a serious period of spiraling and sudden obsession with politics (they used to be a “apolitical”/“we can’t change anything” type) because the world they thought they lived in was not what they were indoctrinated in to be.
I went through this as well. I feel like it's a pretty common experience for many of us
I do think its partly a reason why many get hung up on socdem thought, its easier to square with having “no agency” and being at the mercy of an uncaring elite with bloody revolution as the only avenue for actual change.
i would like a mental break because the system doesnt take a break ever
i feel that
ok but seriously i actually feel bad for corporate workers because i read about how boss yell at them and they feel their job is meaningless and uncertain (layoffs) so they take that pent up anger out on blue collar workers. i feel so sad for computer man 😭
While I was in a blue collar job, on my really bad days (the worsened poverty was destroying my mental health) I would literally think to myself, "I'm better than this/smarter than this."
Which was insane. I was surrounded by competent, hard workers with pretty vast sums of knowledge on the science of our work. Whereas I knew nothing. They also easily understood Marxist fundamentals in repackaged language.
When I moved to a computer man position, I realised I had stepped into liberalism central. While everyone will smile and agree about everything, it's ice cold. The strangle hold lay-offs have on everyone is brutal.
Just a bit of a ramble but when I switched high schools near the end of my education, my new principal looked at my unimpressive test scores and said something along the lines of, 'well, somebody needs to drive the trucks.' It was reflective of the attitudes drilled into me through my primary educations, that Blue Collar work represented the 'bad path' you'd fall onto if you failed your education.
So, even though I had no particular interest in academics at the time, and had no idea what fulfilling work felt like or what I wanted to do with my life, I had always told myself that I needed to end up in White Collar work. That I would have at least 'made it' then and not be cursed to labor, something I saw as a punishment for lack of performance. I went to uni and accomplished it, too, ending up in a comfortable but deeply unfulfilling bullshit job.
I'm the rube, of course. As I became more politically actualized I realized who actually held the value, it became clear that I had put myself in the ideal position for a worker under capitalism. Earning hardly enough in an insecure position - I'm not exactly a specialized professional. I could be laid off in one bad swing of the job market and since my skillset is built around a bullshit profession, I am vulnerable to having to accept any work should this happen.
My peers from school, the ones seen at the time as lacking promise and doomed to 'drive the trucks,' have of course built practical and valuable skill sets directly valuable to the economy and always relevant for society - concepts I had never been properly exposed to in my education. They're not on the greener side of the fence, of course, as they are dealing with their own material issues like health issues and longer work hours. It just amuses me sometimes how effectively me, a young directionless boy, was steered away from work that would have built character and purpose, in favor of chasing a deadend desk job that, at one point, made me feel superior.
I think this is actually a pretty common experience for not-dirt-poor white dudes in the western world, and is of/c reflective of that deep societal rot everyone is ignoring. There's a lot of complicated feelings causing that build up of resentment among the White Collar world to their Blue Collar comrades, and I find, more and more, that it doesn't go the other way.
I appreciate you sharing this, because I feel somewhat similarly. So much training for such flighty, specialized "skills" just for it all to change on a near-constant basis (sometimes by design...).
Not saying all white collar/desk positions are pointless, but it's pretty easy to see just how much our culture and school systems divert many people into relying at best on a livelihood that might be utterly changed or deleted in the span of a decade, or at worst a livelihood they can control you through.
'Swhy I'm doing a mid-life career change and learning carpentry. Far as I know AI can't build houses yet, and in the worst case scenario of society collapsing I can at least build shit for people in exchange for food.
If the techno-feudalist/anarcho-capitalist society the fascist tech bro fucks want comes to pass, they can either jail me or kill me (likely), but the one thing they can't do is rob me of the skills I can use to help my community and keep myself alive. In times like these, it's enough to keep going.
(But also, keep spreading that Marxism folks! Ain't no revolution without optimism.)
our economy would collapse without truck drivers or blue collar i dont know the logic behind shaming them…
Enforcing the social hierarchy. Reducing the social prestige means workers don’t value their labor and demand less pay and less rights.
Bingo. Pot, frog, water, boiling, etc etc
I can't reply directly to opiumfree's comment, so I'll reply here.
I think the wage difference also helps create class division. Like, managers are workers, but since they tend to receive higher wages and have to measure workers on useless metrics, they aren't seen well by white collar workers.