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If they put cameras in your bathroom and you are not aware, your privacy wasn't violated

This was the Chairman of the US Intelligence Committee

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[–] bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And somehow voyeurism is still illegal.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago

It's illegal when the poors do it. The rich can't cash in on that as easily.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If they put cameras in your bathroom and you are not aware, your privacy wasn't violated.

There's a reason they own all the major operating systems, messaging apps, social media platforms, cloud infrastructure and spy agencies.

There's always going to be some deliberate loopholes and exploits in or between the supply-chain to get to you when you're inside their ecosystem.

But some companies promise you're "secure" and "private" if you use one of their expensive, shiny offerings. They swear it on their marketing, ads and PR releases.

It's that comfy feels of paying more for a false sense of privacy and security that matters.

tldr; Use Linux and open source.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 6 days ago

It's much easier to just attack the statement with NO, that is in fact not how the human right to privacy works. It is just misconduct, it is just extreme ignorance, a lack of knowledge about the things that your country put the person in charge of.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 7 points 6 days ago

Frontal lobe bait

[–] dropdrip@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The American intelligence apparatuses had been using this line of reasoning to legalize their illegal operations from the start: computers collecting data on citizens are not committing 'surveillance'. If a human needs to assess that data then they apply for a rubber stamp from the state to allow surveillance of a human, but for the computer to collect and asses? There was never a need to seek authorization: it's not surveillance. Computers collecting data and autonomously acting on that data--even to kill--can never be illegal. Welcome to the United State of Ammerikkka.

That's to say: it never mattered. The verbal affluent to legitimize what they're doing is just that. To people ignorant of computers it may have sounded reasonable back then, given it was dressed up enough, but in the day of computer-controlled economies and warfare I don't think it can stand anymore even to a moron.

It can't change though as changing would necessitate all the current political and economic structures to change: to voluntary put in excruciating effort to give up power. Not only are you asking those in power to debase themselves, but to also debase all those around them. It cannot happen.

What can happen and what should happen is that you should act. You are in control of you: liberate your computers. Not only is this something that is possible, but you are also empowering yourself. When you do this you inversely disempower the polities and economic controls that are superstructures built on this foundation of computer-surveillance and -manipulation.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You can't be targeted if you don't know you're targeted.

[–] PrincessCory@lemmy.wtf 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Tell me, if i spy on you ewery day after work when you are unlocking your bicycle to go home, and each day i see one more number, so at the end of the week i know whole passcode for unlocking your bibycle.

Did i not violate your privacy and security just because you dont know that i was spying on you??

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Who do you think is going to answer

[–] PrincessCory@lemmy.wtf 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Let me be more direct. Here is the situacion. Big companies are spying on people and use that informacions directly against you.

People dont know that this is happenening so they cant be mad about it. If you explain to someone what is going on anyone will be mad and say no am not allowing this any more. But the thing is, even when one realises what is going on they dont see any way how to stop that. Thats why many people say that is shit but we cant stop it no matter what we do, so lets pretend it doesnt exist. Only knowledge is opsticle between our freedom and us. Nothing else.. Ofcourse we can stop spying on us, but for that you first need to understand how spying works.

Noone is braking ito your system and stealing informacion about you. No the sustem you are using is collecting that info and sending it wilingly! Am talking about Windows here, Mac os and on boile devoces Android and Ios. Linux on pc doesnt do that, graphine os on mobile is not doing that, but people dont know it.

People need to realise what open source software is. Because eweryone are using software so much these days, so they need to know some thing about the stuff that they are using..

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

People do know. People would not say it is shit if they didn't know about it. It isn't just "nerds" that are aware, my mom's friend spontaneously brought up she didn't want to install what's app because "it's meta"..(admittedly, she also said "I have enough meta" which is a bit tech-illiterate). my uncle rants about it (admittedly ..on Facebook). These are pensioners with nothing to hide. It really is legislation and not awareness that is clogging and this is not strange following auth right waves. But nobody thinks or agrees with the title (which is why it's good clickbait ofc). Even the policy makers in an auth right carousel don't believe it, they just perform as they should to climb the ladder.

[–] PrincessCory@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 days ago

Great that your old ones have realised it but unfortinatly those are rare individuals. I remember when they started prompting people to acept cookies, people started avoiding that exceptence even thoy its taking third of the screen on mobile devices. So that clearly shows that when they tell you this is for spying on you, acsept it. People are refusing to do that even when it its painful to use website like that. Means it does matter to people, and they are willing to sacrifice something to achive privacy, but before noone told them that there is tracking and asked them to allow or not allow that.

[–] Jagarico@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Me. And the answers is: maybe

[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago

So what I’m hearing is that theft doesn’t exist if no one is caught. Right? Supermarket chains etc. complaining of theft from any source other than recovered goods from said theft should be null and void.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

How in my bathroom? Like in the bidet?

[–] PierceTheBubble@lemmy.ml 129 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Did you really get raped, or did the roofie I put in your drink do its job?

[–] bleustenns@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago
[–] lmdnw@lemmy.world 87 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mike Rogers deserves to not ever feel safe or secure. I hope he dies.

[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

Well I have some good news for you!

Just not yet lol

[–] waltersf@bookwyr.me 66 points 1 week ago

Mike Rogers has been IGNORING privacy violation complaints for ten years*!

[–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 week ago

This is the guy Abdul El-Sayed is running against.

[–] BrickEater@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

This is the type of motherfucker to say:

"Well I raped you while you were drunk asleep, and you didn't wake up, so was it really rape?"

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not a crime if it's not discovered?

Someone ought to tell his wife to get STI tests done pronto.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

To a Republican? The answer is a resounding yes!

And if it is discovered, it is the fault of the person discovering obviously.

[–] subterfuge@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

“You can’t have a home invasion if you don’t know the robber is hiding in the closet”

[–] distal@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If I kill someone without them noticing I would not be a murderer by that logic.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Congressman, here is a supercut of every time you’ve taken a shit in the last five years. I’ve been posting updates on an invite-only website. Every member of your staff is in there, and they LOVE seeing each pained expression you make. But you didn’t know, so I didn’t violate your privacy.”

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 3 points 6 days ago

But you told him you sick fuck! How could you just violate him so by telling him??

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 week ago

What do you MEAN 'if we don't know'??

EVERYBODY FUCKING KNOWS

[–] redkid1324@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago

Really? The Schrodinger defense?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago

Alrighty, so we'll install hidden cameras in all the showers in your home. You won't know about it, so you won't mind either

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i thought that guy had sworn off suits for good

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

It’s an older clip, sir, but it checks out.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 16 points 1 week ago

Hey look, yet another GQP talking point that boils down to not understanding (or willfully dismissing) the idea of consent. Rapists one and all.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

No that's a violation of the law, your trust, and your privacy.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

People in the US have less privacy rights than Chinese people. They have the amount of privacy that corporations permits.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

A tree didn't fall in the forest if you didn't hear the tree fall in the forest.

[–] hneerqe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

They could as well publicly and really piss and shit all over these hearings at this point.

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When you find out are you allowed to care in retrospect?

[–] distal@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Apparently this guy is Abdul El-Sayed's opponent

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Wasn’t this from over a decade ago?