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If they put cameras in your bathroom and you are not aware, your privacy wasn't violated.

This was the Chairman of the US Intelligence Committee

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[–] dropdrip@lemmy.ml 2 points 47 minutes ago* (last edited 29 minutes ago)

The American intelligence apparatuses had been using this line of reasoning to legalize their illegal operations from the start: computers collecting data on citizens are not committing 'surveillance'. If a human needs to assess that data then they apply for a rubber stamp from the state to allow surveillance of a human, but for the computer to collect and asses? There was never a need to seek authorization: it's not surveillance. Computers collecting data and autonomously acting on that data--even to kill--can never be illegal. Welcome to the United State of Ammerikkka.

That's to say: it never mattered. The verbal affluent to legitimize what they're doing is just that. To people ignorant of computers it may have sounded reasonable back then, given it was dressed up enough, but in the day of computer-controlled economies and warfare I don't think it can stand anymore even to a moron.

It can't change though as changing would necessitate all the current political and economic structures to change: to voluntary put in excruciating effort to give up power. Not only are you asking those in power to debase themselves, but to also debase all those around them. It cannot happen.

What can happen and what should happen is that you should act. You are in control of you: liberate your computers. Not only is this something that is possible, but you are also empowering yourself. When you do this you inversely disempower the polities and economic controls that are superstructures built on this foundation of computer-surveillance and -manipulation.

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 33 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's not a crime if it's not discovered?

Someone ought to tell his wife to get STI tests done pronto.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

To a Republican? The answer is a resounding yes!

And if it is discovered, it is the fault of the person discovering obviously.

[–] redkid1324@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 hours ago

Really? The Schrodinger defense?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 22 points 5 hours ago

What do you MEAN 'if we don't know'??

EVERYBODY FUCKING KNOWS

[–] distal@lemmy.ml 24 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

If I kill someone without them noticing I would not be a murderer by that logic.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 8 points 5 hours ago

Hey look, yet another GQP talking point that boils down to not understanding (or willfully dismissing) the idea of consent. Rapists one and all.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 20 points 7 hours ago

“Congressman, here is a supercut of every time you’ve taken a shit in the last five years. I’ve been posting updates on an invite-only website. Every member of your staff is in there, and they LOVE seeing each pained expression you make. But you didn’t know, so I didn’t violate your privacy.”

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 hours ago

People in the US have less privacy rights than Chinese people. They have the amount of privacy that corporations permits.

[–] BrickEater@lemmy.world 38 points 9 hours ago

This is the type of motherfucker to say:

"Well I raped you while you were drunk asleep, and you didn't wake up, so was it really rape?"

[–] PierceTheBubble@lemmy.ml 100 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Did you really get raped, or did the roofie I put in your drink do its job?

[–] lmdnw@lemmy.world 69 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Mike Rogers deserves to not ever feel safe or secure. I hope he dies.

[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 hours ago

Well I have some good news for you!

Just not yet lol

[–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 46 points 11 hours ago

This is the guy Abdul El-Sayed is running against.

[–] waltersf@bookwyr.me 53 points 12 hours ago

Mike Rogers has been IGNORING privacy violation complaints for ten years*!

[–] subterfuge@lemmy.world 31 points 11 hours ago

“You can’t have a home invasion if you don’t know the robber is hiding in the closet”

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 hours ago

A tree didn't fall in the forest if you didn't hear the tree fall in the forest.

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago

i thought that guy had sworn off suits for good

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 21 points 11 hours ago

Alrighty, so we'll install hidden cameras in all the showers in your home. You won't know about it, so you won't mind either

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago

No that's a violation of the law, your trust, and your privacy.

[–] hneerqe@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

They could as well publicly and really piss and shit all over these hearings at this point.

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago

Wasn’t this from over a decade ago?

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

When you find out are you allowed to care in retrospect?

[–] distal@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago

Apparently this guy is Abdul El-Sayed's opponent